Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by kevin_b_er on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:11PM (#33453219)

What this is is also another reason not to use Snap.

This is a multi-level failure.

1. Signal-Desktop is AGPLv3: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Desktop

2. The snap package metadata is AGPLv3: https://github.com/snapcrafters/signal-desktop

So, this looks like a fraudulent DMCA claim by Signal, as the snap package maintainers and Canonicial have an open source license! This shows malice by Signal.

3. No-one from Canonical contacted the package maintainer(s) about the DMCA, so they have no opportunity to counterclaim or defend.

This is an open sign Snap should not be used. Because utterly unjustified DMCA claims will result in the removal of a package without any way to contest. This is compounded by Canoncial's controlling methodology with Snap where it is ostensibly open-source but Canonical controls what is permitted with snap through a closed-source server.

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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by cyberphobe on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:22PM (#33453402)

AGPLv3 does not somehow permit trademark violations. Signal has taken issue with third parties building binaries and calling them Signal, and I can’t really blame them. This is the same reason Signal isn’t in F-Droid

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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by kevin_b_er on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:36PM (#33453607)

And the DMCA is about copyright. Where's trademark mentioned?

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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by tingletech on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:59PM (#33453956)

Violating trademark triggers AGPLv3 license to be invalid, thus the copyright claim.

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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by Murrawhip on Thursday November 03, 2022 @01:42PM (#33454636)

No, AGPLv3 allows for adding an additional term regarding trademark. Signal-desktop is using the default APGLv3 without such a term.

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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by Zak on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:46PM (#33453755)

DMCA takedowns are for copyright only, not trademark. Requesting or demanding removal for trademark reasons is legitimate, but using the DMCA takedown process when there is not a copyright violation is fraudulent.

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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by tadfisher on Thursday November 03, 2022 @01:19PM (#33454268)

Because the AGPLv3 allows for trademark restrictions, violating the trademark revokes the copyright license.

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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by monocasa on Thursday November 03, 2022 @01:42PM (#33454644)

AGPLv3 allows for adding trademark terms, which signal has not done.

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Re:Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubu... by nicce on Thursday November 03, 2022 @12:25PM (#33453450)

And snap store backend is walled garden, you can’t really even make official snaps as external packages. Everything depends on Canonical.

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