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Re:U.S. pushes Japan and other allies to join China chip curbs by kelnos on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:42PM (#33441833)
Where is the evidence that China wants to collaborate with "us"? It seems like their standard playbook is to entice or force others to open their markets to them, but then refuse to reciprocate.

They are an isolationist authoritarian nation, with already-large and still-growing influence over world politics and economic matters. Perhaps what the West is doing right now to attempt to curb this is the wrong move, but I don't think the "fear-mongering" is unwarranted at all.

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Re:U.S. pushes Japan and other allies to join China chip curbs by amaccuish on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:40PM (#33442623)
> They are an isolationist authoritarian nation, with already-large and still-growing influence

Your first part doesn't really go with the second.

I agree, China is very isolationist. But that's precisely why I'm not concerned about this "influence". They're absolutely not interested in converting other countries to their system, they will work with anyone who they can do business with.

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Re:U.S. pushes Japan and other allies to join China chip curbs by iconhacker on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @06:56PM (#33444019)
What about Saudi? Is it an authoritarian but still US ally? Double standards?
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Re:U.S. pushes Japan and other allies to join China chip curbs by DiogenesKynikos on Sunday November 06, 2022 @04:03PM (#33497117)
> It seems like their standard playbook is to entice or force others to open their markets to them, but then refuse to reciprocate.

Foreign companies have a very large presence in China's internal market. It would be difficult to give a full overview, so I'll give a few examples to illustrate the point:

* Volkswagen has the largest share of the Chinese automobile market.

* China is Nvidia's 2nd largest market (nearly $4 billion in revenue, which is more than Nvidia takes in in the US or the EU).

* Airbus and Boeing dominate the aircraft market in China. Airbus just announced a $17 billion deal two days ago.

* Starbucks runs 6,000 locations in China.

There are countless examples like this. Suffice it to say that China is one of the most important markets for a very large fraction of multinationals.

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