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Re:Why Are so Many Babies Born around 8:00 A.M.? by googlryas on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:08PM (#33441330)
And it looked like a butcher shop to you? I honestly have no idea what you're getting this from. Do you remember you/your wife giving vaginal birth to her placenta? Didn't that look like a butcher shop?
Re:Why Are so Many Babies Born around 8:00 A.M.? by 1123581321 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @03:41PM (#33441823)
He might mean butcher shop as in being treated like a piece of meat to be handled as conveniently as possible, rather than consulted or even allowed to guide her own birthing experience. My wife had made similar remarks.
Re:Why Are so Many Babies Born around 8:00 A.M.? by googlryas on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:20PM (#33442404)
Well, I guess sorry your doctors sucked, but that isn't reason to malign the whole concept.
Re:Why Are so Many Babies Born around 8:00 A.M.? by 1123581321 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:32PM (#33442556)
What are you talking about? This doesn’t have anything to do with the quality of individual doctors, or whether any particular procedure has value. (At least, as I understand the point of the descriptions of systems in action in the article.)
Re:Why Are so Many Babies Born around 8:00 A.M.? by googlryas on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @04:52PM (#33442765)
I'm responding to the butcher shop comment, not the article. The article has no reference to c sections or labor and delivery in general being butcher shoppy, unless you think scheduling a time for a c section or inductions makes it a butcher shop. I assumed OP was talking about c sections specifically, since it was in response to a comment about c sections, and c sections might use similar tools to a butcher shop(a knife).

The comment makes even less sense if they're talking about labor and delivery generally, which maybe they are. Maybe hospitals are a little too clinical for some, but that doesn't make them a butcher shop, and that's why you can bring your own doula. And maybe the clinicalness is part of the reason hospital births are far safer than home births.

Re:Why Are so Many Babies Born around 8:00 A.M.? by 1123581321 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @05:35PM (#33443227)
I see. Sounds like you and the OP might have significant ideological differences, and you are unhappy about an idle comment by my wife because I tried to clear up confusion around OP’s metaphor. Sorry for adding to the confusion.
Re:Why Are so Many Babies Born around 8:00 A.M.? by dang on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @08:24PM (#33444929)
I understand why a phrase like that can be emotionally activating, but please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. You made your point already. Escalating ("your doctors sucked") is unhelpful.

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