> they -removed- Facebook login

They called it something else, they make you use different credentials, but it’s all Facebook on the backend.

I believe its now a Meta Account.

I am no expert but it does seem to be an improvement because you don't have to install the FB app on your phone or login to FB on your browser. The app in particular is such a roach motel I am very glad to get away from it.

Source?

Whose backend should it be using? Apple’s?

> Privacy options

Are we talking about the same Meta company that owns Facebook?

> they -removed- Facebook login

Which they added in the first place, much to the dismay of literally everyone.

Do you expect an equivalent Apple product to not require an iCloud login?

Apple, on the other hand, loves to talk about privacy, but if anyone in the conversation backs up messages to iCloud then the whole thing is sitting on Apple's server unencrypted[1]. WhatsApp is better.

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2020/01/21/appl...

It’s ironic, but I like and support meta so I agree with your points.

Like meta, I also agree that Apple will be a double edged sword for XR. On the positive side, Apple will help the masses understand the potential of XR beyond gaming, and the M chips blow everything away. On the negative side, only we’ll be able to afford a $3000 XR Apple headset which will save meta’s XR related effort since they’re the affordable option. They’re scared of if, but whether or not Meta realizes it, meta needs that Apple headset to release

>>Apple is the worst thing that could happen to VR

Like they were for MP3 players, Smartphones, expensive headphones and Smartwatches?

I can't deploy my own developed app to my own devices permanently without paying $100/year.

Yes, I use Android.

I'm confused. Why not? Android lets you sideload.

If you want to develop on iPhone you need to pay to become a developer, $100/year. You can't just run whatever code you like on it.

Google is one-off $25 to publish on their store, but running your own code via sideload is free.

Yes, on iPhone. Parent said they used Android, hence my confusion.

Parent is saying "on iPhone I can't even install my own apps without paying $100, therefore I use (choose) Android".

They definitely innovated once. Nowadays they are mostly responsible for inflating high-end phone and headphone prices to ridiculous levels.

An Apple headset and marketing dollars would galvanize the industry. Meta will still release their headsets and probably be better off for it because Apple will have primed consumers to what the experience is. Apple doesn't usually pay for exclusives so apps will make it to other platforms.

Removed the Facebook login? Lol, now it prompts me every-time I use it to create a Horizon's account. I personally couldn't care less about the facebook login, and really never saw what the big deal was. I created a facebook account which I only use for the quest 2. You're going to need an account, what does it matter which platform it is from?

I'm sick of people criticizing Apple's walled garden. It's the primary feature of Apple products. It's what makes them what they are. If you don't like it, just buy something else. No one is forcing you to buy Apple if you don't like the walled garden. Many people like it and I'm amazed that there are so many people that don't understand that.

If you like the walled garden fine, I just don't want it influencing VR. For example Apple's decision to take a 30% cut of ebooks, prompting Kindle to remove the ability to buy books in their app, led to Google doing the same thing.

Apple will lock down the hardware and increase prices, and that doesn't benefit consumers if other companies follow suit.