Re:Ask HN: How can techies influence companies to stop imple...
by bombcar on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:12AM
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You could solve 90% of this by having a yubikey be built into the phone itself. Non-techies would be "using their phone" and people who care could get a stand-alone yubikey thing.
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Re:Ask HN: How can techies influence companies to stop imple...
by zarzavat on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:36AM
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Isn’t a “yubikey built into a phone” just equivalent to a password manager? What threat is actually prevented by that? You have to have some way to sync the “yubikey” so that the phone can be restored if it is lost.
Re:Ask HN: How can techies influence companies to stop imple...
by bombcar on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:45AM
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Not necessarily - it could be the Secure Enclave thingy and yes, if you lost your phone it would be like losing your yubikey, but the goal would be to get more support for yubikey like things.
Re:Ask HN: How can techies influence companies to stop imple...
by zarzavat on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @01:19PM
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The point is people don’t buy just one yubikey. You are supposed to buy them in pairs at least. So whatever you put in a Secure Enclave needs cloud backup for normal people to be able to use it, at which point it’s not functionally a yubikey anymore.
Re:Ask HN: How can techies influence companies to stop imple...
by EduardoBautista on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:15AM
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This is basically what you are describing: https://webkit.org/blog/11312/meet-face-id-and-touch-id-for-...
It's not widely adopted, unfortunately.
Re:Ask HN: How can techies influence companies to stop imple...
by ghaff on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:15AM
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What's the advantage relative to a soft token? (Though it's arguable that Apple/Android should have an installed soft token out of the box.)
Re:Ask HN: How can techies influence companies to stop imple...
by bombcar on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:45AM
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It can be a hard token utilizing the secure features of the phone itself.
This has the downsides if you lose the phone you lose the token, but that downside exists for a physical token, too.
The goal is to encourage them to support the tokens so that those who want to can go phone-free (by using a hardware yubikey instead).