Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap
by izacus on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:05AM
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I'm just annoyed that Google Maps still has no support for displaying speed limits in Germany or most of Europe. TomTom does show them.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap
by b4je7d7wb on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:00AM
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That sounds horrible for yellow and red cars. I hope all new cars are green.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap
by cyclever on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:39AM
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I hope cars are mostly forbidden in cities soon.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap
by kybernetyk on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:07PM
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They are in most European cities anyway. I'm in a - for the US small, for Europe mid sized city with a pop of roughly 400k. City center is banned to cars. You're supposed to park on the outskirts or take public transport into the center. (Or bicycle).
The result is that almost no one goes there anymore. All the inner city shops are closing down - while the mall style shopping centers on the outskirts are flourishing.
Walkable cities sound great in theory. Until you realize that shopping groceries _really_ sucks when you have to carry full bags for 3 kilometers or have to use over-filled public transport.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap
by jefftk on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:24AM
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Electric cars are all green, gas cars are green if they meet EURO 1, and diesel cars are green if they meet EURO 4 (or EURO 3 + retrofitted particulate filter)[1]. This is pretty loose for passenger cars: any made in the last fifteen years should all qualify [2].
[1] https://www.germanemissionssticker.com
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap
by kybernetyk on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:19AM
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yeah, yellow is like very old diesels and red is for cars without a catalytic converter. so most cars (even my RAM 1500) have a green badge
I also noticed a quirk where it would send me 2km down a road just to turn back and drive the 2km back to where I came from. First few times I thought I must have added a waypoint but nope - sometimes it just makes you waste time.
Apple Maps might be better but I can't use it as it has a quirk with "Environmental Zones" in Germany. There are 3 kinds of zones: Red, Yellow and Green. Your car has a badge with a color (depends on how environmentaly friendly it is). So a green badge can enter every zone, a yellow badge only yellow and red zones, and a red badge only red zones.
Now whenever Apple Maps encounters such a zone in the route the navigation switches to a waaaay zoomed out view (tends to display the whole route on a map). So you can't really see the next turn, etc.
To get rid of that view Apple Maps expects you to click on OK. Which really sucks while driving.
What's infuriating is that you can't turn off the env zone checking or even just tell Maps that "my car has a green badge so PLEAS FOR F SAKES STOP PESTERING ME EVERY TIME YOU ENCOUNTER A ZONE". (Those zones are very common - every bigger town is a green zone. So Apple Maps becomes _really_ unusable on longer trips).