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Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by red_Seashell_32 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @08:59AM (#33434980)
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by tomrod on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:02AM (#33435029)
Makes sense. Elon and Bezos have several spheres they overlap in now. From a business perspective having Elon own a core distribution of Bezos' news business doesn't make sense. This is likely true for the less-public families that own a lot of the media conglomerates as well.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by emedchill on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:25AM (#33435368)
The article was not about The Washington Post leaving Twitter; it was suggesting everyone to leave it.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by tomrod on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:36AM (#33435536)
Correct. If everyone leaves, this implicitly includes WaPo, and they have less competition from Twitter through news distribution.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by jfengel on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:41AM (#33436590)
This article doesn't really have anything to do with the Washington Post, and it's not any more about WaPo than any other twitterer. It's an opinion piece that happens to be by one of the Washington Post's stable of writers, but she has no more say over their policy than you do.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by tomrod on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:49AM (#33436734)
Editorial pieces are chosen to be printed by the news group. While it "might not represent [news group] opinion" it usually does unless the topic is not meaningful to the news group. This seems like a pretty basic strategy to me -- my high school current events teacher would always remind us to "consider the source". Is this really controversial?
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by jfengel on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @05:10PM (#33442963)
This isn't an editorial. It's an opinion piece, by a regular columnist.

They get printed on the same page of the paper, but they have a different relationship to the newspaper itself. The editorial staff work directly for the paper, and have a fair bit of say in its operations.

This is a regular columnist. The news group didn't select this piece. They just ran the text in the (probably weekly) slot reserved for this columnist. They did hire her in the first place, but not because she reflects their opinions.

Columnists are hired specifically not to repeat what the editorial staff would say. They often represent a diversity of opinions. More relevantly here, they get to work independently: they produce their material without oversight of the editorial staff.

Their actual hiring structure can be complicated. They may be syndicated, or they may get their paycheck directly from the newspaper. But either way, they don't have any control over the newspaper's policy. The only power they have is to put words on the page -- an important platform, no doubt, but the newspaper doesn't have to listen to them.

Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by tomrod on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:04PM (#33444091)
> More relevantly here, they get to work independently: they produce their material without oversight of the editorial staff.

In theory. Hard to prove the practice doesn't align to WaPo's strategic interests.

Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by jfengel on Thursday November 03, 2022 @09:25AM (#33450589)
It's easy to demonstrate that the Post's columnists represent a wide range of political views. Here's the list:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/licensing-syndication/columni...

There are more left-leaning ones than right-leaning ones, but it's a diversity of viewpoints.

Whether they should leave Twitter is, in theory, apolitical (though nothing is apolitical even more). I have no idea if any of the other columnists have an opinion one way or the other.

Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by rogerkirkness on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:27AM (#33435404)
Bezos is the neurotypical to Elon's aspergers, which is why Elon keeps winning.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by beardyw on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:36AM (#33435545)
> keeps winning

At what?

Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by sidibe on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:23AM (#33435330)
Where's the next place for journalists? If Google Plus were still around I feel like this would have been their moment.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by fsflover on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:27AM (#33435405)
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by tomrod on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:35AM (#33436480)
Not centralized enough, missing network effects
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by fsflover on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:57AM (#33437904)
You can follow people from other instances - how is is not enough?
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by tomrod on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @12:36PM (#33438627)
If search across instances isn't available, then discoverability without 3rd party tooling is poor -- and the 3rd party tooling becomes the centralization point.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by fsflover on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @06:10PM (#33443613)
I guess there can be many independent 3rd-party toolings.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by bediger4000 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:09AM (#33437078)
Seems wise. If you're a corporation, you don't want to associate your brand with something as capricious as Twitter. I left this spring because I didn't want my content to make Dorsey money. I imagine WaPo and other corporations might calculate the same.
Re:Elon Musk buying Twitter is our prompt to leave by JoeMayoBot on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @05:08PM (#33442944)
No one really knows what's going to happen until it happens. This is full of hyperbolic phrases, designed to leave the reader with a negative view of the acquisition. "deluged with Musk wisdom", "warnings about porn", "death of a Tesla driver", "baseless conspiracy theory", "feed the monster", "teetering on the brink of civil war", "twitter czar", "ignorant, manipulative, or deceitful", "hate speech", "orcs". I get it that some people have a low opinion of Elon Musk and might be skeptical of his motivations. I don't and think he's doing and will do a lot for humanity. That said, I'm sure there will be things I like and dislike about what he does at Twitter, just as it has always been. I do believe the article was quite extra.