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Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by matheusmoreira on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @07:26PM (#33429231)
Maybe not ruthless enough. Society needs to evolve past this notion that people have control over data and information just because they created it. The faster this happens, the better. Are we seriously gonna have to put up with the good old copyright industry forever? They keep destroying perfectly good technology just because it threatens their existence. I say let them disappear.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by Kye on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @07:27PM (#33429247)
What is a "copyright industry"? This is one human trying to make a living by making kids smile.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by matheusmoreira on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @07:29PM (#33429261)
> her work (copyrighted by the clients she works for)

There you go.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by PuddleCheese on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @08:00PM (#33429611)
If the artist is posting personal work, then it is covered by copyright automatically per the Berne Convention.

Copyright exists to incentivize authors, artists, scientists, etc. to create original works by providing a temporary monopoly.

If an artist works with a client, the legal stipulations are going to be different for each commissioned work, generally.

Depending on the client, they may be better able to protect an artists work than the artist themselves, and with credit...

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by matheusmoreira on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @10:36PM (#33430827)
> temporary monopoly

What a joke. That "temporary" monopoly lasts centuries and gets extended whenever some rich company's imaginary property is about to enter the public domain. Copyright duration is functionally infinite, you will be long dead before your culture is returned to you.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by PuddleCheese on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:01PM (#33430970)
Right. I doubt many people would disagree copyright REFORM is sorely lacking. Or are you suggesting that an artist is not allowed to benefit from their work because Disney has extended copyright?
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by matheusmoreira on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @11:35PM (#33431165)
Creators can benefit as much as they want. Just not through artificial scarcity. That ship sailed the second computers were invented and they need to stop trying to put that genie back in its bottle.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by fennecfoxy on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:04AM (#33435955)
Well yeah, I don't know if people have noticed but notice how Disney has started using the classic Mickey Mouse animation at the start of all their works now, because they know their already extended copyright is about to expire.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by _carbyau_ on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @10:07PM (#33430643)
Don't worry, if the West doesn't come around to your way of thinking, China will.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by 314 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:49AM (#33432094)
If this was to happen, and we created a world where there was no form of copyright: why would somebody spend their life in a creative industry making new things?
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by UweSchmidt on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @05:42AM (#33433302)
Without copyright people can make even more things. Bring out your own Mickey Mouse - Star Wars crossover, NSFW!

Imagine the entire corpus of human creation, free to be remixed and extended. For now we hope they make a good sequel, someday...

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by datagram on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @06:26PM (#33443753)
Most of that corpus was only created because it was profitable to do so due to the protections offered by copyright law.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by matheusmoreira on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:12AM (#33433955)
Intrinsic motivation to create. Also, there's no reason they can't make money some other way. Patronage and crowdfunding seem to be the answer.
Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by 314 on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @09:01AM (#33435009)
They don't seem like a very good answer.

Allowing creative output to be freely used, while forcing creators to subsist on the crumbs thrown back is a two-class system. It seems unfair to those doing the work in such a system.

Copyright is far from perfect (far far...) but it is still an improvement on patronage. At least a creator has control over the use of their work.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by matheusmoreira on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @11:38AM (#33437591)
> It seems unfair to those doing the work in such a system.

It's the only thing that makes sense in the 21st century. Copyright is unenforceable in the age of ubiquitous networked computers.

In order to enforce copyright, every computer will have to be locked down so that they only execute "compliant" software. Surely everyone browsing this site can appreciate the unfairness of that outcome. I for one do not want such a future under any circumstances. If the copyright business model is killed, so be it.

> At least a creator has control over the use of their work.

An illusion. They have no control. Their copyrights are infringed every single day. Most of the time people don't even realize they are infringing someone's copyright.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by 314 on Thursday November 03, 2022 @01:02PM (#33454009)
> In order to enforce copyright, every computer will have to be locked down so that they only execute "compliant" software.

This is not true. While it is one possible approach to enforcing copyright, it is not the only possible approach. Network surveillance of distribution is another possibility that has been against p2p networks.

Copyright has never been completely enforcable. It has always been a partial solution aimed at preventing organized / profitable distribution, i.e. it is a legal fallback rather than a prevention. But a partially working solution is better than nothing.

Re:Invasive Diffusion: one unwilling illustrator found her t... by Siira on Friday November 04, 2022 @10:29AM (#33467300)
Most of the entertainment I have consumed in recent years has been made by amateurs that at most got donations. Besides, there can be subsidies. The current copyright law is already a subsidy, but it’s selling off the society’s natural rights instead of petty tax money.