News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Nascar Driver Stuns to Qualify for Championship with Game... by afarrell on Monday October 31, 2022 @10:07PM (#33416082)
A video game is a puzzle and it is fun to watch someone successfully manipulate a puzzle.

Live sports are with people and people don't like watching others be manipulated.

Re:Nascar Driver Stuns to Qualify for Championship with Game... by setr on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @12:38AM (#33416993)
Of course they do, things like juking, tricking other players, etc are well accepted

The problem is that these kinds of strategies are boring to watch, have little counter play, and only interesting the first time around — as soon as it enters the meta, it’s just boring. In this case it’d probably be fine, but if you spent two minutes doing it? It’d be awful.

Exactly the same as it goes in video games — it’s fun to see people exploiting elements the game, when it adds complexity to the match. When it reduces it, like an infinite combo, regardless of how mechanically complex or novel a puzzle solution it might be, it just detracts.

Re:Nascar Driver Stuns to Qualify for Championship with Game... by solveit on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @01:18AM (#33417247)
Yeah, for game exploits "haha I can't believe you can do that, that's hilarious, now let's patch it out" is the norm. Exploits that make the game richer and gain wide acceptance are very much the exception.
Re:Nascar Driver Stuns to Qualify for Championship with Game... by FileSorter on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @02:00AM (#33417523)
>Exploits that make the game richer and gain wide acceptance are very much the exception.

Good examples of this are bunny hopping and rollout doomfist.

Re:Nascar Driver Stuns to Qualify for Championship with Game... by musicale on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @12:39AM (#33417000)
> Live sports are with people and people don't like watching others be manipulated.

I'm pretty sure I've seen lots of deceptive and misleading strategies and tactics in football and other sports, not to mention multiple forms of "faking." Also a core part of sports like football seems to be putting pressure on the person with the ball - up to and including physical tackling.

Clock/time management also seems to be a thing.

Re:Nascar Driver Stuns to Qualify for Championship with Game... by lostlogin on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @01:30AM (#33417319)
Much of reality tv is basically watching people be manipulated/manipulative too.
Re:Nascar Driver Stuns to Qualify for Championship with Game... by astura on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @01:03AM (#33417159)
Disagree completely, the deke is my favorite play in baseball.
Re:Nascar Driver Stuns to Qualify for Championship with Game... by banannaise on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @10:12AM (#33421490)
It's not about manipulation. It's that if you die in football, you die in real life. If you do stupid stuff, players can get hurt. Whereas in video games, all that can really happen is a win or a loss. A bizarre play where someone gets hurt is funny in a simulation, and tragic in meatspace.

This is part of why the NASCAR move is so interesting. The driver himself notes that he was putting himself in real actual danger of crashing his car and possibly hurting himself, but he was willing to take that risk.

I would not be surprised to see this outlawed in the very near future before someone can cause a major crash trying it.