Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021)

Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by bheadmaster on Monday October 31, 2022 @10:41AM (#33406412)

I don't want to stand on any side of the argument since I'm not very informed about KiwiFarm incident, but Wikipedia in general is not really a reliable source of truth.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by kragen on Monday October 31, 2022 @11:18AM (#33407022)

Wikipedia does get things wrong sometimes, but I'm not sure where to find more reliable information. Wikipedia does have a pretty good history of handling controversial topics like the Armenian genocide, the killing of Michael Brown, and lampshades made of Holocaust victims' skin.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by bheadmaster on Monday October 31, 2022 @12:41PM (#33408409)

I agree that Wikipedia eventually converges to something close to truth. However, that takes time. Since the event in question is fairly recent, I'd still take everything written on Wikipedia with a grain of salt.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by EarlKing on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:24PM (#33410244)

ahem

You can find out more about Keffals' victims in their thread (NOTE: TOR link):

http://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyx...

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by bauruine on Monday October 31, 2022 @10:59AM (#33406710)

Chloe Sagal was left alone for 8 months (not a single post in her thread) until she killed herself. If you are interested I recommend reading https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2018/06/woman_who_set_se... It starts with what her friends blame Kiwi Farms but then goes deeper in to the issues.

EDIT: The "sexually explicit photos" are a video she did for a porn website. I'm not sure how this qualifies as "leaked" or "revenge porn".

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by kragen on Monday October 31, 2022 @11:46AM (#33407476)

Thank you for the extra information.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by EarlKing on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:27PM (#33410303)

This. Chloe never blamed KF, but her friends did.

...and there is still zero evidence Byuu killed himself, just the bald assertion of one person that was taken at face value by the media.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by bitwize on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @01:40AM (#33417387)

That person happens to be the leader of the Asahi Linux project. In other words, closer to byuu's hacker circles than any of us.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by EarlKing on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @04:16AM (#33418350)

And yet there is no evidence an American died overseas in Japan during the time he supposedly killed himself. None. Just one guy's assertion and everyone else believing him.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by HereIGoAgain on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:50PM (#33460224)

Also no death cert or even family comment either.. Just a "friend" who "heard" over the phone.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by dbfx on Monday October 31, 2022 @11:17AM (#33407004)

The hotel where she was doxed by the sheets nothing was delivered, the second hotel was where the uber hack happenned and things were ordered thru ubereats, this was all done by doxbin[0], both the dox and the hack.I'm pretty sure kf was actually down during that whole thing due to a ddos attack but I may be misremembering.

Wikipedia doesnt post the truth(it's impossible, really), they post things backed up by secondary sources, when the secondary sources are knowingly lying[1] at keffals request to not mention doxbin it's pretty hard to trust them.

[0]: search keffals doxbin on google, not linking to it. [1]:https://destinygg.substack.com/p/keffals-a-case-study-on-int... check chapter 3, all sources are inside, doxbin is website zero.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by kragen on Monday October 31, 2022 @11:46AM (#33407478)

Thanks for the pointers.

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by EarlKing on Monday October 31, 2022 @02:19PM (#33410150)

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms does not support your point of view

...you mean the encyclopedia that anyone can edit? The one which has been edited to support a viewpoint whose sole source is Keffals herself? That one?

I'm not impressed.

There is no evidence that Keffals was ever contacted by anybody other than her own assertion. Meanwhile, however, there is plenty of evidence that Keffals was part of a group that tried to get troubled teens access to hormones without the knowledge of their parents or physicians. That's all documented at KF. [1]

> Sorrenti later fled the country after her location was identified again

...conveniently omitting the fact that she was raided by the RCMP who seized evidence. It was after that raid she fled the country.

Honestly, you should never cite Wikipedia for anything.

[1] TOR link to Keffals' KiwiFarms thread - http://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojhmqruw2nit3uejrpiagrxeuxiyx...

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Re:Where the Sidewalk Ends: The Death of the Internet (2021) by HereIGoAgain on Thursday November 03, 2022 @08:48PM (#33460207)

And not one bit of even evidence that the site had anything to do with that.. Keffals wasn't even doxxed on the site, it was on another site. Plus the person in question just got done fighting and de-platforming another internet personality with a huge following and then gloating about taking away their livelihood. They didn't leak photos of Keffals, they found self posted porn from the past.

Stop posting misinformation!

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