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Re:Andrej Karpathy: Why Tesla Removed Radar and Ultrasonic S... by ion_fury on Sunday October 30, 2022 @11:46PM (#33401835)
i just dont get it. lex says "lets re-frame the question: can a language model drive a car?" this doesnt have any insinuations about andrej's intentions or motives. if it were calling out bullshit it would be "lets re-frame the question: why is elon musk never wrong?"

lex kisses elon musks ass, last time i checked hes on musks side in the lidar debate and also lex has a record of listening patiently no matter what and i have never known him to check people or "call out their bullshit." lastly, what andrej did wasnt a bullshit move. re-framing a question has never been known as something people do only when they are being deceptive and it is very common in intellectually honest answers/explanations in my experience.

im still shocked because usually i see what other people see. but people calling this a dig/bullshit came out of left field for me. i hope i dont miss stuff like that more than i realize...

edit: i read your comment again and i didnt read it right. he panics, gives himself some more room, lex acknowledges this but in a prickly way. it makes sense but im still upset because when i watch it all i see is lex making a joke. i guess i have severe autism.

Re:Andrej Karpathy: Why Tesla Removed Radar and Ultrasonic S... by jholman on Monday October 31, 2022 @04:23AM (#33403230)
See my sibling comment, but I agree with you, especially about Lex's track record, and I think the other commenters are projecting.

And you're right, reframing a question is like THE MOVE for academics, so it's completely not evidence that Andrej was making "a bullshit move" (although it's also a classic move for PR flaks, so it's possible he was making a bullshit move).

Re:Andrej Karpathy: Why Tesla Removed Radar and Ultrasonic S... by ion_fury on Monday October 31, 2022 @01:58PM (#33409819)
i looked at your account and, were you ever involved in real estate?
Re:Andrej Karpathy: Why Tesla Removed Radar and Ultrasonic S... by jholman on Monday October 31, 2022 @04:33PM (#33412586)
I've read the fine-print terms of a mortgage perhaps half a dozen times.