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Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by qull on Sunday October 30, 2022 @05:32PM (#33398959)
It wasn't exactly free, but a crony system from what I can tell. Honestly feels way too cheap at 5$ for what it is and the unjustified weight it carries.
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by anecdotal1 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @05:37PM (#33399005)
I'll pay $5 to be verified and then hopefully have an option to filter out every account that isn't verified
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by Nomentatus on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:01PM (#33399283)
Indeed. As Hubert Humphrey said: "Everyone has a right to speak, but nobody has the right to be heard."

Okay I'm wrong. The correct quote is: “The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.” ― Hubert H. Humphrey

Maybe if he'd lived into the internet age, he'd have gone with my quote. There ain't time to hear everybody on the net, or Twitter.

Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by gonzo41 on Sunday October 30, 2022 @07:03PM (#33399969)
That option should be free though. The 90, 9, 1 rule applies strongly to twitter. Elon and team should try and milk the 1% for a lot of cash and make the experience pleasant for the 90% who just read it all.
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by anecdotal1 on Monday October 31, 2022 @08:25PM (#33415342)
Oh sure the filter should be free for everyone, why not. It just makes the verified accounts even more valuable
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by Nomentatus on Sunday October 30, 2022 @05:59PM (#33399259)
I believe that Lithuania has an electronic ID system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_identity_card#As_el...

that's been working. I think we're behind the curve here; it should be easy to very strongly verify my identiry to any online business I choose to do that with; without government taking the lead, every damn company is going to be expensively reinventing that wheel.

Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by tttttt5ts on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:16PM (#33399453)
Most companies shouldn't need this information. I don't give my id to most businesses I visit in person. The ability for online services to "verify" me does not need to be easy and it doesn't need to be cheap otherwise it will just be abused.
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by Nomentatus on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:32PM (#33399657)
But bots can't walk into most businesses in person. My point is that I don't want to hear from an account that isn't at least verified to be set up by a verified specific human being.
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by tttttt5ts on Sunday October 30, 2022 @07:39PM (#33400234)
And you should be able to filter to only accounts that are verified and pay $5/month. I think this is an issue with twitter and their product. "verification" is one possible solution. But, other product changes would probably work better. E.g., I rarely have such negative interactions on hacker news and they don't even require a CC or a phone.
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by Nomentatus on Sunday October 30, 2022 @08:05PM (#33400435)
Agreed, and I want to see more than one change and some experimentation, too.
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by adamckay on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:57PM (#33399899)
But if you're out in public and you start shouting harmful, hateful or abusive messages there can be real-world consequences.

On Twitter you can be the most vile person possible with absolutely no fear as you're entirely anonymous.

Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by hombre_fatal on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:20PM (#33399523)
Twitter’s blue checkmark isn’t just authentication. The reason anyone cares about it is that it means “I’m a somebody”.
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by Nomentatus on Sunday October 30, 2022 @06:30PM (#33399644)
I understand, but unless via a crony system, it's hard to do that kind of IDing without expense. However, I would like to see a not-someboy-but-a-verified-specific-human-not-bot account designation, too.
Re:Elon's first big move: pay to remain verified on Twitter by Nomentatus on Monday October 31, 2022 @12:16PM (#33407905)
So to flesh this out, I'd like to see three or four kinds of members on Twitter. All would be authenticated in one sense: their real names would be known to the site and verified. But...

1) Some users would pay extra to be anonymous or pseudonymous to users of the site (but not to corporate Twitter)

2) Most users would be under the real verified name but no blue check to say this is their real name. No charge (unless just for the initial verification, maybe.)

3) Blue check users pay to show everyone they are not just a person, or just a person of the same name shown, but a person (or company) of note with that name. (And the most well-known person with that name.)

4)? "Ordinary" or less well-known people should be able to pay a little for, say, a blue circle (but no check) that shows they are not pseudonymous accounts and any geographical location, job description given has been verified.