Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf...
by DFHippie on Saturday October 29, 2022 @08:48PM
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I think it's static inasmuch as it isn't an inherently adversarial problem. The world isn't bent on thwarting self-driving cars. Bot authors are bent on subverting detection.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf...
by bumby on Saturday October 29, 2022 @09:10PM
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That’s fair. I was looking at it more from a reliability engineering perspective. Namely, that many real-world hardware/software interfaces have so many variables that they are required to be modeled as long tailed random events.
From that sense, they aren’t static and well defined because we can’t create a deterministic physical model (and often have to settle with wide levels of uncertainty).
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf...
by ceejayoz on Saturday October 29, 2022 @08:57PM
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> The world isn't bent on thwarting self-driving cars.
Oh, that'll come.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf...
by bumby on Sunday October 30, 2022 @07:26PM
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That’s fair, but I don’t think it explains the “well defined” part of the claim.
They problem is so ill defined that it sometimes has to be modeled as random events instead of a deterministic physical process.
Re:Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staf...
by jjfoooo6 on Tuesday November 01, 2022 @04:19PM
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What I mean to convey by "well defined" is that even though the problem space of self driving cars is enormous, the success criteria of teaching a car to self drive is probably going to look pretty similar in 10 years to what it looks like now.
Bots on the other hand changes constantly - what is the definition of an abusive bot? What is the definition of spam? The adversaries on Twitter adapt not only their tactics but also their goals.
One of the things that makes safety critical applications like self driving so hard is they have such an abundance of low probability, high severity cases that it is very hard to define/test them all.