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Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by bythreads on Thursday October 27, 2022 @03:24AM (#33354333)
So controversial anecdote: I was an exchange student in france (from denmark) for a few months - when i was around 14. And i was shocked to my core when i saw how teachers and the schoolsystem was put together.

There was a boy in my class that had difficulties at home and struggled in school (daydreaming instead of focusing etc) and i clearly remember this scene where the teacher mocked him infront of the class saying stuff like "looking out the window again are we, no wonder you're slow and stupid when you dont participate" - queue the other kids laughing.

This happened across classes, multiple times with different people. The teachers where petty, confrontational towards other with differing opinions and did not enjoy being challenged in any ways, shape or form.

(I landed myself at the principals office multiple time by defending the vulnerable ones against draconic teachers) - and i'm not sure if it's still allowed - but i witnessed multiple times where teachers hit students.

(This was a "good" school btw.)

It was clearly an institutional culture, and they didn't know what to do with me because i came from the complete opposite and had the moral highground constantly - the kids where sad when i went back, the teachers (& principal) happy.

Oh, and the actual level of teaching was super bad, all learning by hearth - no "think for yourself", composition or divergent thinking allowed

Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by enqk on Thursday October 27, 2022 @04:05AM (#33354611)
Yes the educational culture in France is really into public shaming. You can directly see its effect on the rest of the culture
Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by fsckboy on Thursday October 27, 2022 @04:37AM (#33354857)
btw "cue the other kids laughing", rather than queue. In stage acting a cue is a signal to synchronize things like a new player entering the stage.
Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by bythreads on Thursday October 27, 2022 @06:22AM (#33355540)
Thanks appreciated!
Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by gsinclair on Thursday October 27, 2022 @08:07AM (#33356328)
Also “were”, not “where”.
Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by skeeter2020 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @06:47AM (#33355723)
maybe they get the kids all lined up and ready to take their turn laughing; that feels like a public school-type activity.
Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by nicolas_t on Thursday October 27, 2022 @05:19AM (#33355150)
Was it in a private or public school? Anecdotal but I've never seen that when I was in school in the 90s. Friends who went to "good" private schools though complained about public shaming and had similar experiences to the one you had.

Also in terms of teaching, I actually appreciated the fact that we had a lot of compositions that emphasised critical thinking (more so than I had when I went to Germany for 6 months as an exchange student). Wonder if that's because things have changed since the 90s or if it's due to the private/public school difference.

On the other hand, I was very heavily bullied in middle school but that was by other kids not by professors. And once I got to High school the bullying completely stopped.

Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by bythreads on Thursday October 27, 2022 @06:23AM (#33355552)
This was actually a public school in "thonon sur le mans" (lake geneve)
Re:An ode to that “coffee friend” by nicolas_t on Thursday October 27, 2022 @07:44AM (#33356131)
Oh that's sad that it'd happen even in a public school. When was that?