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Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by edmcnulty101 on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @09:45PM (#33352003)
Or people just don't trade with California and California doesn't have any pork.
Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by PaulDavisThe1st on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @09:51PM (#33352039)
This is not how it normally works, and I suspect you know that.
Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by WalterBright on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @10:02PM (#33352121)
That's how it works for San Francisco, which is turning out to be not so good for the SF citizens:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/san-francisco-to-consider-toler...

Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by PaulDavisThe1st on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @10:37PM (#33352388)
The toleration of intolerance has always been a thorny philosophical problem.

The WSJ article is clearly written as an homage to The Onion.

Finally, San Francisco is not a big enough market to swing anything (or almost anything). California is, particularly if there are at least a few producer states whose sympathies lie in the general direction the CA is trying to push (e.g. with vehicle emissions).

Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by jquery on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:03PM (#33352570)
Was the WSJ always this bad or did Rupert Murdoch’s purchase take it in a far right direction?
Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by Regnore on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:41PM (#33352805)
The linked article is from their opinion section which is always hit and miss depending on how you lean politically.

The actual reporting done by WSJ is still top tier imo.

Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by tdehnel on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:36PM (#33352767)
Oh knock it off. Having a conservative opinion =/= “far right”
Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by 3836293648 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @03:40AM (#33354436)
You're talking about Americans. The democrats are far right and the republicans are extremely far right. Look at the rest of the world
Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by knewter on Thursday October 27, 2022 @08:12AM (#33356367)
The opinions of rest of the world are irrelevant to us as regards our political debates. You literally don't matter.
Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by edmcnulty101 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @12:03AM (#33352935)
What will most likely happen is that the prices of pork will go up in Cali to accommodate for their laws and stay the same everywhere else.

Regulation simply equals increased prices which is essentially a tax on the middle class and poor.

Whatever was regulated will become a luxury. The rich will have it but the middle class and poor will not.

See car prices, gas prices, food prices, liquor licenses, etc. Anything the government gets it's hand on to regulate increases prices.

The rich don't notice the increased cost of regulation but the middle class and poor suffer.

Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by PaulDavisThe1st on Thursday October 27, 2022 @12:13AM (#33352999)
> What will most likely happen is that the prices of pork will go up in Cali

That assumes:

* either pork production for CA takes place only inside CA or in other states they have two levels of pork production

* if the latter, this further requires that pork producers are happy maintaining two levels of production

* it also requires that no or few other states follow CA lead on requirements

> Regulation simply equals increased prices

Regulation is often (not always, but often) about bring externalities into the actual cost. So the full picture of the result of regulation needs to include:

* what were the externalities now being priced?

* where was the cost of the externalities previously experienced (e.g. poor communities dealing with runoff and waste from pork production)

* what was the full cost of the externalities before regulation bought some of them into the actual price?

* what are the remaining externalities after the regulation

Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by edmcnulty101 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @06:44PM (#33365004)
adding additional friction to a process always increases the difficulty of the process and the cost of overcoming that friction is always borne by the consumer.
Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by PaulDavisThe1st on Friday October 28, 2022 @01:53PM (#33374822)
who bears the cost of not adequately regulating production and disposal processes?
Re:The United States’ Unamendable Constitution by HWR_14 on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @10:44PM (#33352432)
> Or people just don't trade with California and California doesn't have any pork.

That's not how it works in the real world. See how California sets the entire US auto policy.