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Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by MichaelCollins on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @03:50PM (#33348470)
The best "gadget" for saving energy is a sweater. Conserve your own body heat and turn down (or off) the furnace. If you're concerned about your energy bill and you're also wearing tshirts indoors in winter, you're doing it wrong. Get long sleeve shirts, put on two or three layers, get some warm clothing like sweaters and thick wool socks. Then turn your furnace down to 10 C / 50 F. I promise you will survive. Your pipes won't freeze. With warm clothing, you will even be comfortable.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by m463 on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:05PM (#33348657)
I wonder what the gradient can be from core temperature to extremities?

I find that in cold rooms, my fingers slow down even if I'm warmly dressed.

typing with cold fingers might be a recipe for arthritis.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by fasthands9 on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:12PM (#33348740)
In New England my dad always kept the house cold (not 50F) while my college dorm (also in New England) was kept toasty.

Going back and forth over winter break I definitely noticed a productivity shift being some place I was warm and comfortable.

Perhaps there are less noticeable psychology benefits for it being cold but I do not think being uncomfortable and dealing with it is a long term strategy for success. And probably completely impractical if you live with other people in the same house.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by MichaelCollins on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:21PM (#33348866)
When your core cools, your body will react by reducing bloodflow to your hands and feet (which are basically radiators) to preserve heat for your core. Generally, dressing warm to keep your core warm should help keep your hands and feet warm too, but of course there will always be a temperature gradient.

If that isn't sufficient, there are still cheaper ways to deal with it than adjusting the furnace. A low power radiative space heater (the sort with a reflective dish) can be very efficient at heating up the person it's pointed at without heating up the whole room. Having a warm drink to pick up and sip on also helps; it'll warm your fingers directly and also give your core a little boost of heat. Heated electric blankets are also extremely effective.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by GoToRO on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:09PM (#33348707)
Also, cold walls mean condensation and then mold.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by MichaelCollins on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:25PM (#33348919)
That happens when the cold walls are cooling down warm air, dropping the moisture out of that air. If you have a warm house and open all the windows in winter, you'll get condensation on the walls. If the house was cold in the first place, e.g. the walls and air are in a cold thermal equilibrium, you won't get condensation on the walls.

Bathrooms and kitchens are a special case, which can be addressed with ventilation. One of the upsides of keeping your home cool in the winter is it's much cheaper to circulate in new air from outside. You get to have fresh air all winter without paying to heat all that air up. I believe fresh air throughout the year has many health benefits.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by GoToRO on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @08:25PM (#33351445)
It really depends. The air that you exhale is hot and humid. As soon as it touches the exterior walls, it will condensate. I'm talking about a house that is not insulated, but also does not leak air out (new windows with good seals). If it leaks some air out, then the condensation is very limited as outside cold air is dry in winter.

It might be like you said only if you don't use that room, or you have a big house so maybe you don't use most rooms and then you don't fill them with humidity from your own breath. Walls are cold but also dry.

Opening the windows in the winter is how you let all that humidity out.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by MichaelCollins on Thursday October 27, 2022 @04:17AM (#33354702)
> Opening the windows in the winter is how you let all that humidity out.

Absolutely, being able to open your windows is a big advantage of keeping your thermostat low.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by colechristensen on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @05:48PM (#33350009)
When the inside of your home is warmer than the outside when there is cool weather outside, you don't have humidity, mold, and condensation problems.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by kragen on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @05:58PM (#33350141)
You can, and also in the inverse situation; it depends on how the walls are built.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by 8bitsrule on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @08:48PM (#33351605)
Fingerless gloves can help. A light beanie compensates for baldness, as does slippers on the feet.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by ParetoOptimal on Thursday October 27, 2022 @10:17AM (#33357773)
Yeah, I can only do so much cold because of my hands.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by jancsika on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:45PM (#33349167)
Your target audience apparently entertains zero guests and has an emotional life that is magically disconnected from long-held human habits.

Also, they either a) don't own a piano, or b) don't care about taking care of the piano they own.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by nsteel on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:52PM (#33349250)
Or have very young children.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by colechristensen on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @05:50PM (#33350030)
Very young children are perfectly happy properly dressed and cold.

Parents in nordic countries leave their babies outside bundled up in strollers in the winter to nap.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by nsteel on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @08:01PM (#33351303)
Babies can't regulate their body temperatures well so no, they are not happy when cold. They are happy in the cold when properly dressed and warm, which I assume you meant.

The key point here with this napping thing that did the rounds is that this is just for short naps. People in Norway/Finland do not leave their babies in a cold environment for long periods of time. Presumably the main reason they do this cold outside nap is that it's easier to get a baby to fall asleep in a pram (safely wrapped up) but very disruptive to then bring it inside, where it will be warm, have to undress it and then inevitably wake it. But I don't know, there are probably also other reasons. But parents in nordic countries are the same as everyone else when it comes to heating their homes appropriately, especially for night time sleeping.

Personally I would imagine even things like eating would be harder if the room is too cold and the infant must always be maximally layered up. It doesn't need to be any harder.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by MichaelCollins on Thursday October 27, 2022 @04:16AM (#33354689)
You're right, I don't have or care about pianos.

As for guests, you can turn up the heat when guests come to stay and still see dramatic energy savings, vs running the heat full blast the whole winter.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by 1123581321 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @07:42PM (#33365577)
You should be able to keep the piano’s humidity acceptable at lower temperatures with a whole house humidifier. Installation will pay for itself in a season if it lets you lower your thermostat several degrees. Some brands are more sensitive than others, of course.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by anyoneworks on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @07:49PM (#33351195)
This is so condescending.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by MichaelCollins on Thursday October 27, 2022 @04:04AM (#33354603)
Gee, I'm sorry you feel that way.

Anyway, enjoy your... [checks thread]... bathtub waste water heat reclaimer. I'm sure that will make a big difference to your energy bill when your thermostat is turned up to 30C in January.

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by Am4TIfIsER0ppos on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @09:14PM (#33351783)
> freeze your nuts off for ukraine!

alternatively

> freeze your nuts off for the environment!

Which lie do you do want to believe for making your poorer?

Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by danielfoster on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:38PM (#33352776)
Agreed, but keep in mind not everyone is an average BMI or overweight. My BMI is quite low and despite wearing multiple layers, I am always cold.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by jffhn on Thursday October 27, 2022 @01:51AM (#33353661)
It's a bit extreme, but did you try Antarctica expedition suits? They're designed for minus 30c or below. Or just the top and one or two hiking overpants. Also mittens if you need your fingertips. Got myself some of that but it's not cold enough to try yet.
Re:The DIY gadgets that could keep your energy bill down by ParetoOptimal on Thursday October 27, 2022 @10:30AM (#33358022)
This reminds me of how people don't do the most effective actions to protect the environment like:

- have one fewer child (60 tons of carbon dioxide equivalents)

- live car free (2.5 tons)

- avoid one round-trip trans-Atlantic flight (1.5 tons)

- Buy green energy (1.3 tons)

- Buy a more efficient car (1.2 tons)

The source lists a chart with more actions:

https://www.science.org/content/article/best-way-reduce-your...

But instead people focus on recycling and replacing lightbulbs while paying no attention to the 20 flights they took last year.

Perhaps even making inaccurate value judgements on those that didn't recycle that year but also took 0 flights.