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Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by ed25519FUUU on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @10:57AM (#33344675)
There’s a ticking clock right now for 5/1 ARM. If rates stay elevated then many are going to be out of a home.
Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by skapadia on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:02AM (#33344766)
Sure, but who was opting for an ARM in the last 5 years?
Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by htrp on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:06AM (#33344830)
You would be surprised.... a lot of flippers and even non-flippers betting on the ability to easily refi 5 years out.

Publicly reported data:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/27/adjustable-rate-mortgage-dem...

Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by brink on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:07AM (#33344853)
Not the last 5 years - the last ~8 months.
Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by cameronh90 on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:50AM (#33345524)
I know this article is about the US, but in the UK, 30 year fixes are very rare nowadays. Most people are on 2 to 5 year fixes which revert to adjustable or trackers. The norm here is to refinance to a new fix every few years.

If rates were to go up to 8%+, a lot of homeowners here would be unable to meet their repayments. The basis of the stress testing we've been doing since 2014 was only whether people could afford their mortgage if rates rose by 3%.

Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by hackerfromthefu on Thursday October 27, 2022 @05:00AM (#33355025)
Pretty much the rest of the world except america
Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by snarf21 on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:51AM (#33345545)
We should outlaw ARM for most people. It should only be for "accredited borrows" like we do for investing. People who don't really understand the risks get screwed and it creates unnecessary bubbles.
Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by another_poster on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @01:53PM (#33347098)
To play devil’s advocate, we really should ban 30 year fixed mortgages, not 5/1 ARMs. I know it sounds contradictory, but hear me out.

One of the Fed’s primary methods to control inflation is adjusting economic demand by making loans cheaper or more expensive.

In our current regime of fixed mortgages, new home buyers disproportionately bear the cost of the Fed’s effort to reduce inflation, since only they need to pay the higher costs. But if everyone had ARMs, the cost of reducing inflation would be spread out over everyone with a mortgage, so the pool of people affected would be significantly wider and the needed interest rate increases to fix inflation would be significantly lower.

Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by medvezhenok on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @03:45PM (#33348406)
There's also a much easier way to fix [monetary] inflation and that is fiscal - just raise taxes. Much quicker to propagate through the economy too. Just politically challenging.

Right now fiscal is doing the exact opposite, i.e. giving people stimulus while FED raises rates.

Re:U.S. mortgage interest rates jump to 7.16%, highest since... by snarf21 on Thursday October 27, 2022 @11:05AM (#33358638)
That is an interesting thought and I'll have to think about that more deeply. I think one thing that we need to remember is that with a fixed mortgage, you are paying tomorrow's mortgage at today's prices. As inflation rises and salaries rise to keep pace, your mortgage stays the same. It incentives home buying which is why there are so many government programs in this area. Obviously you don't want to just in at the top of the bubble, but getting in asap is a great strategy for most everyone.