My dad's resume and skills from 1980

Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by Spooky23 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @12:25PM (#33332743)

We do. 80% of the tasks that I did as an engineer in 1999 are fully automated today.

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @12:52PM (#33333128)

Interesting. Almost nothing I've done as a programmer since 1985 seems automated today.

What do you mean by "fully automated" ?

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by LtWorf on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:29PM (#33333609)

No? You had valgrind to find memory bugs in 1985?

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:41PM (#33333783)

I would not consider that "full automated", but YMMV.

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by enraged_camel on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @03:29PM (#33335057)

Same. It's fair to say our tooling today is far superior, but "fully automated" implies virtually zero input from humans beyond the initial configuration.

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by Spooky23 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:48PM (#33339203)

Being a bunch of engineers on HN, I get it, but that’s needlessly pedantic. My first real job was a systems and tools programmer working on scaled database systems.

Literally every aspect of that job is fully automated.

Where I work today 20+ years later, we have 1/3 of the people doing like 100x the amount of work by several measures. Little teams of developers can just crank out work.

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by PaulDavisThe1st on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @11:06AM (#33344825)

You call it pedantry, I call it "field of work". I've managed to avoid working on apps built around databases for my entire career, instead focusing initially on operating systems, device drivers and OS-level tools; then later on software for pro-audio/music creation workflows. Literally no aspect of this work is "fully automated".

Yes, the productivity of modern day "stored-in-the-DB/presented-in-the-browser" project teams can be astounding. But that's only one type of software.

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by dboreham on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @10:00PM (#33338819)

Debug heap libraries existed in 1895.

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by mperham on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @05:25PM (#33336373)

ORMs didn't go mainstream until Hibernate in 2001 or so? Before that, everyone was writing custom SQL and DB access by hand.

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @05:42PM (#33336553)

I implemented "an ORM" at amazon in 1994. None of the code outside of the library used SQL, everything pushed and pulled C++ objects.

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Re:My dad's resume and skills from 1980 by paintballboi07 on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @11:01PM (#33339299)

I worked at a place a long time ago upgrading legacy software from the 80s. I helped them update their build process from file shares, copy/pasting and manual building to Git, Jenkins and automated builds/tests/packaging. I know it's not automated code, but it certainly saved us a lot of time with about 50 assemblies. I'm sure some companies were ahead of the curve when it comes to stuff like that, but this was a really small company. Modern CI/CD software is great and saved us lots of time.

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