This interview was the final straw for me where I came to the conclusion that calls for Kanye to be de-platformed, at least temporarily are reasonable and necessary. If not for the victims of his comments but for himself. I don't want to go all armchair psychologist on this but I think spiralling is an apt word here.

FYI: I didn't make it through even 50% of the podcast because of the sheer incoherence on Kanye's part.