Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by smoldesu on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:18PM
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Why would I buy a Mac Mini for Linux when devices like this exist? The Qualcomm chip is officially supported and much cheaper than buying the Mac. Seems to be much less hassle and better value on the Microsoft side of things.
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Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by artificialLimbs on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:40PM
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$699 for a Mini, $599 for this. The 32GB ram may be nice, but I haven't felt ram pressure on my M1 16GB even running Windows VM on Parallels once, with VSCode, Teams, ~20 tabs of Firefox, DBeaver, Outlook, and Kitty open at once.
Would like to see perf numbers. Could be an interesting box, maybe a nice home server.
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by Funnyduck99 on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:48PM
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that 699 mini also has a lot smaller ssd which is pretty important.
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by thisarticle on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:27PM
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Where does it say Linux is officially supported?
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by smoldesu on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:31PM
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The chip is having mainline Linux support merged with 5.20, according to Phoronix: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-5.20-SoCs-8cx-Gen3-Arm
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by monocasa on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:36PM
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I'd wait to hear if this board has Linux support. It might have a locked bootloader.
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by smoldesu on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:50PM
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Specs seem to list UEFI Secure Boot, which has been unlockable on all of Microsoft's Surface devices and previous ARM outings. Shipping this with a locked bootloader would be one hell of a breach from tradition (and probably undermine it's usefulness as a dev box anyways).
Regardless, the internal SOC is the same as the new ARM Thinkpad which also shipped with an unlocked bootloader. Pretty much everything suggests that this will ship unlocked.
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by monocasa on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:16PM
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> Specs seem to list UEFI Secure Boot, which has been unlockable on all of Microsoft's Surface devices and previous ARM outings
That doesn't quite seem accurate.
For one example: https://www.theregister.com/2016/07/15/windows_fix_closes_rt...
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by my123 on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:34PM
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For all ARM64 Windows devices, UEFI Secure Boot is end-user configurable. And yes that includes Surface Pro X, Pro 9 arm and this devkit.
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by sliken on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @01:43PM
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Sure, doesn't mean that everything works though. The Thinkpad x13s has the same CPU and apparently is quite tricky to get booted. Once booted audio, sleep, bluetooth and the like has been problematic. Granted that's more of an issue with a laptop than a SFF like the DevKit.
Things do seem to be improving. Releasing the Thinkpad x13s has brought attention to the 8cx gen 3 from the Linux community.
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by alexellisuk on Monday October 31, 2022 @03:26AM
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I've tried it. It seems like even with a 6.0 Kernel, additional DTBs are required to boot.
https://twitter.com/alexellisuk/status/1585562359254421504?s...
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by Funnyduck99 on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:24PM
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Yeah I am seriously considering getting one of these. 32gb of ram for 600 dollars plus its a decent specked arm machine with plenty of ports
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by rodgerd on Monday October 24, 2022 @10:03PM
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> Qualcomm
The main reason so many Android devices are throwaway junk is Qualcomm. Don't rely on them for anything that you still want to keep running for more than a couple of years.
Re:Available Today: Windows Dev Kit 2023 a.k.a. Project Volt...
by skohan on Tuesday October 25, 2022 @01:24AM
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We used a Qualcomm module for wifi/bluetooth connectivity on an IoT device and the bluetooth just straight up didn't work for a handful of Android devices. We had to wait like a year for a mitigation, since it was closed source firmware. That was after like a 3 month process of actually find someone who would hear our issue.