I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in with a Lenovo laptop

Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by pferde on Monday October 24, 2022 @09:14AM (#33316213)

I am not doubting you, but I'm surprised that it was cheaper. Every time this is discussed here on HN, or on other forums, the prevailing narrative is that it is increasingly difficult to buy a non-smart TV, and that the only option is to look for "industrial display panels" (or some similar designation), which, people claim, are rather expensive.

Note that I am only recounting hearsay, and I haven't done my research on this, as my three PC monitors cover my needs completely, and I have no need for a TV. I'm only "idly curious" about this topic, because one day I may need such a dumb TV.

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Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by oogali on Monday October 24, 2022 @09:25AM (#33316308)

Context is important.

HN consists of many different people in many markets.

For US folks, yes, you generally have to go for an industrial display panel which is slightly more expensive than a smart TV [whose lower price can be subsidized by the data they're eventually selling].

Maybe for the previous poster who is in the EU, faces a completely different market than the US, a market which is more favorable to non-smart TVs.

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Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by ljf on Monday October 24, 2022 @09:54AM (#33316637)

I have a 'smart tv' (HiSense) - and while it has a bunch of smart stuff that isn't that bad, the best thing is it starts on the input you left it on. So for me it always opens as connected to hdmi1/chromecast, and I never have to see the smart stuff and the tv itself has no internet connection

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Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by kitsunesoba on Monday October 24, 2022 @10:20AM (#33316958)

My 2018 Sony X900F behaves similarly. Have never connected it to the internet, and its near-stock Android TV install doesn’t nag me about that. When I turn it on it starts on the last used input and you don’t see any “smart” UI unless you explicitly summon it with the home button on the TV remote.

I’ve been using it with an Apple TV 4K and it’s been great.

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Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by aix1 on Monday October 24, 2022 @11:15AM (#33317804)

My TV (TCL) also switches to the last input, but it first has to boot into Android, which takes some time. :(

(I know I could leave the TV on standby but I don't like doing that, especially just to work around poorly designed software.)

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Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by kitsunesoba on Monday October 24, 2022 @10:15AM (#33316910)

“Dumb TVs” can still be found in the US, but they tend to be quite low spec, using panels with mediocre at best performance. That’s not a problem for a lot of people but anybody looking for a nicer panel is probably stuck buying a smart TV.

Current Sony TVs offer a “basic TV” mode that disables all the smart stuff though, so they’re a decent option for more discerning buyers looking for a dumb TV.

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Re:I help seniors with technology issues. A regular came in ... by permo-w on Monday October 24, 2022 @12:47PM (#33319087)

the reason for the expensiveness being that “industrial display panels” are specifically built to prevent the burning in of an image, as consumer tvs will retain an image if held on that same image for too long

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