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Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by ranguna on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:45AM (#33313960)
Is this software to emulate fido2 without a hardware key, or is it software to allow non Web clients to access fido2 devices, or something else ?

I already use fido2 on Linux with a hardware key for a while now. So I'm finding this a bit confusing.

Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by lifeisstillgood on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:49AM (#33314301)
If I understand it correctly, it's to use fido2 without firefox or other browser. I support any spread of this and am looking forward to (having the time) to read it
Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by ranguna on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:32PM (#33322309)
But Linux already supports FIDO2 without Firefox, I use fido2 with sudo, LUKS and ssh keys (gpg as well, but it uses a custom agent). But maybe those use their own custom implementation of the fido protocol?

Didn't really look this up tbh, it just works right now.

Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by Borealid on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @03:17AM (#33340733)
sudo, LUKS, and OpenSSH each dynamically link and use Yubico's `libfido2`. That supports FIDO2 well on Linux.
Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by ranguna on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:03AM (#33341025)
Meaning this is an alternative to yubico libfido2, gotcha. Thanks.
Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by stavros on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:09AM (#33314399)
Looks like a DBus API for FIDO2, so it would let any browser or non-browser app to authenticate via FIDO2. It looks pretty neat!
Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by ranguna on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:33PM (#33322326)
Ah that makes sense!

So it's a way to allow stuff to communicate with fido2 capable devices without having any dependency other than this and dbus, nice

Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by gre345t34 on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:20AM (#33315743)
As far as I can tell, it's a library that implements CTAP2 (which it erroneously refers to as webauthn).
Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by Borealid on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:39AM (#33315896)
This appears to be an alternative to Yubico's `libfido2`. It is software which OTHER software on your computer can use to connect to a FIDO2 authenticator over Bluetooth, USB, etc.

The primary benefit is that Firefox wants Rust-language code for FIDO2 support, so hopefully this library will (eventually) fill that gap and get Firefox-on-Linux to proper FIDO2 Webauthn support.

Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by ranguna on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:29PM (#33322263)
Hmmm but Firefox on Linux already supports FIDO2, I can login to github and gitlab just fine with the existing implementation.
Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by Borealid on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @03:14AM (#33340707)
I bet you're using U2F/FIDO1. Or, more precisely, I bet you're not using CTAP2.

An easy test is to set a PIN on your authenticator, which is an operation that is supported in CTAP2 and unsupported in CTAP1. Does Firefox prompt you for a PIN when you go to authenticate? If no, you're using CTAP1.

Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by ranguna on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @04:01AM (#33341019)
My token has a global pin which when o unlock, I can authorise any request with a simple click. But for ssh keys I do have a pin for each one. The websites I've tried never requested for a pin when setting up.

Also LUKS does use FIDO2 https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-cry...

Re:WebAuthN and Fido for Linux by Borealid on Wednesday October 26, 2022 @09:09AM (#33343091)
Firefox (only talking about Firefox here) does not use CTAP2, to the best of my knowledge. What you think is "FIDO2" is likely actually U2F/CTAP1. Backwards compatibility with that protocol is part of the FIDO2 spec, but it doesn't enable no-username-provided authentication. LUKS uses libfido2, which supports CTAP2 (and most of CTAP2.1).