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Re:Fake Books by helsinkiandrew on Monday October 24, 2022 @02:40AM (#33313594)
This is a brilliant (but very sad) video. The ghost writers get about $2500 for a 10,000 word book researched and written in a month. I guess this is cheaper than using GPT-3 and having to prune out the flights of fancy/complete nonsense that GPT-3 can sometimes generate.
Re:Fake Books by elefanten on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:13AM (#33313789)
10,000? Could it be 100,000?

I have to write 10,000 words overnight occasionally in my role.

If it’s $2500 for 10k words, maybe I should be ghostwriting…

Re:Fake Books by TaylorAlexander on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:42AM (#33313938)
In the video it's $2,500 for 25,000 words. I think the 10k words was a typo in the above comment.
Re:Fake Books by sarchertech on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:42AM (#33315446)
That’s also the average ghost writing rate. Not the rate the content farm he uses pays the ghost writers.
Re:Fake Books by Raed667 on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:36AM (#33313909)
10,000 words on a random subject that you probably never heard about before?
Re:Fake Books by coldtea on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:42AM (#33314255)
You'd be surprised...

It's not that they care about much fidelity to the subject or going deep anyway.

And half of the work or more is rewritting (sometimes not even that) other sources, like online articles and such

Re:Fake Books by Sirened on Monday October 24, 2022 @01:33PM (#33319706)
College students regularly do this, it's called "not showing up to lecture and writing the final paper anyways" :P
Re:Fake Books by mkl on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:31AM (#33313884)
What role do you have that requires that kind of output?
Re:Fake Books by elefanten on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:02AM (#33314360)
Corporate strategy consulting. 1 day to write 5k-10k words on a topic you have to research from scratch is not uncommon. It's all within a broad field of expertise and a sector you're familiar with, but could be products / companies / deals you'd never heard of.

I think the point here was that the ghostwriting is of really low quality. Overnight 10k reports are never groundbreaking or enlightening additions to human knowledge, but they need to be 90%+ accurate and polished enough to inform.

Re:Fake Books by TeMPOraL on Monday October 24, 2022 @06:17AM (#33314787)
Are those 5k-10k words completely new, or are document templates part of this count?

I know from experience (of on-line commenting; don't judge) this word count is entirely possible to achieve, but I can't imagine sustaining it long-term, as a part of a job.

Re:Fake Books by lupire on Monday October 24, 2022 @12:25PM (#33318773)
Rocket Lawyer (computerized legal doc-writing services) generates thousands of words per day, for one customer, on demand, easily.

Just choose the templates and fill in your names and numbers.

Re:Fake Books by jay_kyburz on Monday October 24, 2022 @06:25AM (#33314844)
“I apologize for such a long letter - I didn't have time to write a short one.” ― Mark Twain
Re:Fake Books by helsinkiandrew on Monday October 24, 2022 @07:40AM (#33315428)
Sorry it was 25,000 - that includes research
Re:Fake Books by TaylorAlexander on Monday October 24, 2022 @03:41AM (#33313931)
From the video, it is $2500 for a 25,000 word book, written in 25 days. That is $100 per day writing 1000 words per day. If this takes you 8 hours per day, that is $12.50 per hour. If you can do this every month, that is $30,000 per year. A comfortable wage for some people, and poverty wages for others. It also seems like a difficult pace to research a topic and write 1000 words per day, and seems like miserable work.
Re:Fake Books by coldtea on Monday October 24, 2022 @04:40AM (#33314249)
>If this takes you 8 hours per day, that is $12.50 per hour.

It probably hardly takes 8 hours a day. More like 3-4 or even 2. 8 hours for 1000 words is for much higher quality 1000 words...

Re:Fake Books by helsinkiandrew on Monday October 24, 2022 @05:50AM (#33314611)
Yes, sorry - 25000 words, too late to edit my comment. But it sounds like miserable work, writing on something you are an expert in, or are interested it sounds like a great way to improve your skills and make a bit of money. But researching, writing, and editing content on a made up topic for some charlatan book publishers sounds aweful.
Re:Fake Books by Dylan16807 on Monday October 24, 2022 @08:06PM (#33324393)
No. From the video it is $250 for a 25,000 word book. Go to 48 minutes.
Re:Fake Books by Dave3of5 on Monday October 24, 2022 @06:00AM (#33314671)
> The ghost writers get about $2500 for a 10,000 word book researched and written in a month

Actually they get $250 for 25,000. The $2500 is what they should get.