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Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by Salgat on Sunday October 23, 2022 @10:51AM (#33307445)
Photoshop can achieve the same thing. So can women hired by pornography companies that are 18 but look younger and intentionally dress like school girls. This excuse is nonsense in the context of what's already available.
Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by scarby2 on Sunday October 23, 2022 @10:58AM (#33307482)
> So can women hired by pornography companies that are 18 but look younger and intentionally dress like school girls.

I've yet to see an 18 year old that looks like an actual child regardless of how they're dressed however I'm also not looking for this sort of thing so...

Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by pjc50 on Sunday October 23, 2022 @11:23AM (#33307678)
Reminded of how the first film role for veteran British character actress Helen Mirren was playing a naked 17 year old in a film called, er, Age of Consent. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063991/ ; she was 24.

This kind of thing happened a lot, and I think more than one entirely "mainstream" director in the 60s/70s filmed nude actresses below the age of 18. Fortunately it's a lot harder to get away with that these days. Not to mention (Weinstein and many, many others) sexually assaulting the actresses off screen.

Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by dymk on Sunday October 23, 2022 @11:01AM (#33307508)
How could you know you’ve never met one? Do you ask every person who looks younger than 18 if they’re actually a minor or not?
Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by dudeinjapan on Sunday October 23, 2022 @11:19AM (#33307654)
The day I turned 18 I still looked like I was 17.
Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by 998244353 on Sunday October 23, 2022 @11:56AM (#33307888)
I know two separate people in real life that are in their twenties but don't look a day over 14. I don't know if it is some hormonal thing or just extraordinarily youthful looks.
Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by danaris on Sunday October 23, 2022 @12:08PM (#33307983)
My sister-in-law tried to rent a bike at Disneyworld once, and was told she had to be at least 14.

Her entirely involuntary response was to exclaim, "Lady, I'm damn near 30!"

So yes; if a 28-year-old can be mistaken for younger than 14 without trying (or even wanting to), there are plenty of 18-year-olds who can appear much younger, especially if they are using makeup, acting tricks, and other means to artificially enhance that.

Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by throwaway382938 on Sunday October 23, 2022 @11:43AM (#33307801)
I didn't say it's a good reason to not release the models, it's just why I think they aren't being released.

You should strive to respond to the strongest interpretation of what you read and not the weakest one.

Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by Salgat on Sunday October 23, 2022 @12:32PM (#33308169)
Sure, they can come up with countless weak excuses if they're dead-set on not revealing the real reason, that goes without saying.
Re:Ask HN: Is Anyone Else Tired of the Self Enforced Limits ... by themacguffinman on Sunday October 23, 2022 @01:41PM (#33308693)
No it doesn't go without saying. People will come up with countless weak excuses if their real reason isn't being addressed. That happens because no matter how many weak excuses you address, their real reason remains standing and continues to motivate them to block AI tooling.

If their "real reason" of CP use cases doesn't exist right now because AI tooling explicitly bans CP use cases, they have no reason to block AI tools.