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Re:Some People Who Appear to Be in a Coma May Be Conscious by Buttons840 on Saturday October 22, 2022 @09:02PM (#33303589)
If someone is in a coma and pulling the plug would take days to kill them, they should euthanize them. Either way the person will die, but euthanasia speeds up the process and helps if they are still conscious in there somewhere.

It's a weird place where we don't consider it killing to let a helpless body starve, but we do consider it killing to inject something that ends things quickly. Both sound like killing to me, and both are ok in some situations.

Re:Some People Who Appear to Be in a Coma May Be Conscious by HideousKojima on Sunday October 23, 2022 @01:23AM (#33304796)
You seriously don't see a moral difference between taking active action to end someone's life vs. failing to take an action that will keep someone alive? That's your basic trolley problem
Re:Some People Who Appear to Be in a Coma May Be Conscious by sonthonax on Sunday October 23, 2022 @03:37AM (#33305290)
No, it’s petty minded high-school philosophy to pretend that starving a paraplegic is morally speaking better than euthanising them with morphine.

There are endless things that distance this from the trolley problem, but mainly starving someone to death isn’t inaction, it’s a conscious clinical choice.

It’s utterly bizarre in my mind that is what the USA settled on as a grotesque compromise. Particularly so because outside the medical setting this would still be homicide by starvation.

Re:Some People Who Appear to Be in a Coma May Be Conscious by 93po on Sunday October 23, 2022 @03:36PM (#33309567)
Exactly. Having a duty of care for someone and deliberately not providing that care with the intention of killing them is making you just as complicit in their death as euthanasia.
Re:Some People Who Appear to Be in a Coma May Be Conscious by sonthonax on Sunday October 23, 2022 @03:58PM (#33309748)
Furthermore it's not inaction, in order to starve someone to death you have to get a lawyer and a judge to sign the death warrant. Pretending this is ethical is palming off the moral responsibility to some medical-tech who refills the feeding tube.
Re:Some People Who Appear to Be in a Coma May Be Conscious by wizofaus on Sunday October 23, 2022 @03:04PM (#33309315)
There's a moral difference if one alternative would result in a slower more painful death . Which is likely to be the "neglect to provide sustenance" option - ie. it's likely to be morally preferable to actively end someone's life quickly/ humanely than it is to just let them die slowly (from dehydration or whatever).
Re:Some People Who Appear to Be in a Coma May Be Conscious by ericmcer on Sunday October 23, 2022 @03:13PM (#33309381)
I dunno it seems like basic decency to kill someone painlessly once that is the what's going to happen. It is crazy cruel to just watch someone die of thirst over a period of days, we wouldn't do that to animals.