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Re:DevOps Is Bullshit by NikolaNovak on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:03PM (#33283981)
I still think that's a bit "rewriting the history". E. G. Vmware enabled fast self-provisioned VMs and nobody called them cloud. Heck in 1999ish or so, while at university and way before I was an IBMer, I could sign up to some ibm development program as a student, get an account, and provision Linux VMs on mainframe.

Not to say your scenario isn't valid and real, but I live that scenario every day today with in house cloud and virtualization too - it takes months of approvals and solutioning and security assessment and network engineering and procurement and costing and whatnot... To deploy a windows vm.

Re:DevOps Is Bullshit by Spivak on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:59PM (#33284353)
> Vmware enabled fast self-provisioned VMs and nobody called them cloud

Because it’s missing all the glue. I need to self-service the VMs, the database, the load balancer, the dns records, certs, and hook them all up so I can receive production traffic all via an API I could theoretically do in Terraform.