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Re:DevOps Is Bullshit by ghaff on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:22PM (#33276995)
To grossly oversimplify, there are essentially two views of DevOps.

1.) What's probably the traditional view which is breaking down the walls between devs and ops, developers carrying pagers, etc. I.e. at least in an idealized world, there are no devs and ops--only DevOps.

2.) As you suggest (and which probably more closely matches how "DevOps" works especially in larger organizations), an internal (or external) operations team provides a platform that developers can use. Developers are still going to be exposed to some operational details, but a lot of them are abstracted away.

Re:DevOps Is Bullshit by Izkata on Friday October 21, 2022 @12:10PM (#33289610)
3) The way I first heard it described years ago, bringing developer practices into ops: version control, testing, code reviews, continuous integration, etc
Re:DevOps Is Bullshit by kazen44 on Saturday October 22, 2022 @07:00PM (#33302992)
> bringing developer practices into ops: version control, testing, code reviews, continuous integration, etc

In my opinion, this last subset just doesn't work well for a lot of branches of operations.

Sure, it might work if you run stuff in AWS and have an operations team managing that, But what if your team is responsible for things like Storage Arrays, networking equipment?

Doing continious integration and code review on some of these is hard if not impossible