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Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by mattnewton on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:59AM (#33276669)
Hmm, having just visited SF and then spent a week in New Haven and Hartford in CT, I can't agree. What American city doesn't have trash? I can't think of a city I have visited in the world that meets that standard. I haven't been, but maybe Singapore?

The homeless problem is very bad in California and SF in particular, and it is very concentrated in a small area to the east that looks positively dystopian. But that doesn't represent the whole city. If there is a next time you visit, I recommend spending some time in the panhandle, the Haight, the sunset, basically anywhere bordering golden gate park.

Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by muaytimbo on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:36PM (#33277187)
I lived in New Haven for 4 years. The difference in the amount of trash between American cities is vast, compare NYC with Chicago. Or really any city on the east coast with Chicago for that matter.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by mattnewton on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:36PM (#33278027)
I'm not sure if you mean that Chicago is clean or dirty? I saw a lot of both last time I visited, it's hard to say. It certainly seemed a lot cleaner than, say, Rochester NY or Philadelphia when I visited, but not sure if that was just the areas I was in.

Of course the difference is vast, I think you could compare one part of NYC with NYC even and end up with vastly different ideas of trash. And that's kinda what I am going on about; the trash under highways in some part of the city is a meaningless metric.

Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by muaytimbo on Thursday October 20, 2022 @02:44PM (#33278898)
Chicago is a much cleaner city. No comparison with New Haven, NYC (where I used to live), Philly (where I live now) or really anywhere else on the east coast. The culture of throwing trash on the ground is endemic on the east coast.

I was flying from NYC to Denver a few months ago and a Denverite and I struck up a conversation on this very topic after observing multiple people throwing trash on the floor in LGA. Speaking of which, Denver, another city that is much cleaner than anywhere on the east coast.

Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by mitchdoogle on Thursday October 20, 2022 @03:02PM (#33279166)
It's because Chicago has alleyways to hide their trash and NYC doesn't. It's not that Chicagoans are any cleaner or have cleaner habits
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by muaytimbo on Thursday October 20, 2022 @03:06PM (#33279213)
Chicago also uses cans instead of throwing trash onto the streets. In conjunction with using alleyways I think we have planned structural differences between the two populations. Surely the beginning of an argument for the "cleaner" and "cleaner habits" between the two.
Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by throwawaytoilet on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:08PM (#33276808)
FWIW, I visit golden gate twice a week in average.

I guess I’m saying something a bit different. When people visit SF from SFO they get on the 101 and within 2 hours they have a feeling of things are broken and that memory sticks. I’m desensitized to those problems so I mostly see the beauty.

If people land at SFO and took 380 onto 280 thn straight to golden gate perhaps their impressions would be different.

Re:San Francisco to Spend $1.7M to Build a Single Public Toilet by dehrmann on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:30PM (#33277104)
They might have also taken Bart to the cheapest hotel they could find near Union Square.