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Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by permo-w on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:17AM (#33275002)
Nicola Sturgeon said that she detests the Tories. her own party (the Scottish National Party, whose central goal is Scottish independence) distanced themselves from those comments. Labour are not saying things like this. the Lib Dems are not saying things like this. and the Tories themselves aren’t saying things like this either

this is the exception not the rule, and as evidence of this, it’s something that’s been turned over and over in the (especially right-wing) media for weeks now

the two MPs killed were killed by Islamic and right-wing extremists, respectively. this has no bearing on how the main parties treat each other

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by chrisseaton on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:19AM (#33275027)
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by permo-w on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:30AM (#33275237)
the first paragraph of that article:

>the Labour leader distanced himself from her words

you’ve cherrypicked two examples that were disregarded by the parties as a whole, then discussed ad nauseam in the media. this is not evidence of anything

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by chrisseaton on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:32AM (#33275279)
I don't understand this response - it's ok for people in one party to say whatever they want and it doesn't count because someone else 'distances' themselves? It was still said - the damage is still done to the level of civility and more hatred was thrown into the fire.
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by permo-w on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:38AM (#33275391)
you’re cherrypicking right-wing talking points to support an argument that doesn’t have much evidence
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by chrisseaton on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:41AM (#33275433)
> you’re cherrypicking right-wing talking points

No the problem is just as bad across all parties. That's the worst of it - the civility and willingness to work together is down across the board.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by permo-w on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:52AM (#33275640)
each of the examples you’ve given were and currently are being endlessly rerun and reran in the media. condemned by allies and discussed ad nauseum. this is hardly routine, normalised behaviour you can point to and say “this is representative of the whole”
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by lostlogin on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:44AM (#33275486)
> Tories themselves aren’t saying things like this either

Maybe not, but pretending they are better while ignoring the homophobia, racism, sexism and offensive class warfare from the like of Boris Johnson seems disingenuous.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by insanitybit on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:05AM (#33275846)
It's not disingenuous it's just not related to those issues. You can talk about the government having a sense of decorum without addressing policy issues.

The fact is that Johnson was ousted by his own party, as was Truss. That would never happen in the US because it's party before everything.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by permo-w on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:06PM (#33276765)
who is pretending they're better? me?
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by lostlogin on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:46PM (#33278169)
That bit of my comment is not accurate - sorry.

I was trying to make the point that The Conservative Party had members making some pretty average comments on a regular basis.