Re:Findings show that the Vikings' self-image was influenced...
by staticautomatic on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:16AM
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The Varangian guard were in Constantinople. So kinda sorta “Roman-controlled” but not exactly Rome.
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Re:Findings show that the Vikings' self-image was influenced...
by notart666 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:30AM
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Well not exactly it was throughout Roman controlled territories throughout hundreds of years not just a single place. Often times mercenaries and raider groups. In places like the France especially. Many settlements and colonies were established and in places like north Germany it's predominately still Scandinavian. And I don't mean Denmark but Hamburg. It's where Hitler got his whole rhetoric about the superior Nordic race and the inferior slavs even though he was from Austria and Germanic not Scandinavian.
Re:Findings show that the Vikings' self-image was influenced...
by barry-cotter on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:54AM
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How was it “kinda sorta”? They were the direct, unbroken, legal and institutional continuance of the Roman Empire.
Re:Findings show that the Vikings' self-image was influenced...
by tokai on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:00AM
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No its exactly Rome. That is what they would have called themselves and they had the provenance to back it up.
Re:Findings show that the Vikings' self-image was influenced...
by quickthrowman on Thursday October 20, 2022 @12:38PM
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The Roman Empire ruled out of Constantinople was not kinda sorta Roman, it was 100% Roman. Historicity has changed a great deal since Edward Gibbon.
Re:Findings show that the Vikings' self-image was influenced...
by Mikeb85 on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:06PM
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Constantinople was part of the Roman Empire (as the name implies, it was 'founded' by the Roman emperor Constantine) and considered itself the Roman empire until it fell.
Re:Findings show that the Vikings' self-image was influenced...
by staticautomatic on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:36PM
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Sure. I just mean that if you didn’t know better, you might conclude from the parent comment that the Varangian guard were geographically based in Rome.
Re:Findings show that the Vikings' self-image was influenced...
by moviewise on Thursday October 20, 2022 @02:36PM
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Quoth They Might Giants, "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)":
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks