Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in...
by castis on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:17AM
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Legitimate only means that the :rules: were followed and nothing more. It does not mean that the rules or the system they reside in are just.
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Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in...
by iLoveOncall on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:40AM
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I never claimed otherwise. I just answered to the comment stating that she was illigetimally in her position, as if the UK was a dictatorship, which isn't the case.
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in...
by klelatti on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:56AM
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I think that there is a bit more nuance needed if you claim 100% legitimacy.
Winning an election on one manifesto, being chosen by 100k members, and then ripping the manifesto up and trying to implement a set of completely different policies would strike most, I think, as not 100% legitimate even if it's legal.
And just to add that she campaigned with members on ripping up the manifesto.
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in...
by mannykannot on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:39PM
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The word legitimacy can be interpreted in either a normative way or a “positive” (see positivism) way. The first meaning refers to political philosophy and deals with questions such as: What are the right sources of legitimacy? Is a specific political order or regime worthy of recognition? As such, legitimacy is a classic topic of political philosophy.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/legitimacy
While I agree with you that it would be incorrect to call Truss' premiership illegitimate, I feel that uniqueuid's comment was using the term according to the above usage.
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in...
by mikro2nd on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:58AM
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Not the only meaning of "legitimate". There's also "Authentic, real, genuine" and "Conforming to known principles, or established or accepted rules or standards; valid." (Wiktionary) There's a question of acceptability involved here, I feel.