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Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by Beltalowda on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:08AM (#33274108)
On one hand I'd love a general election, but on the other hand I feel what's most needed now is a kind of stability and level-headedness that has been lacking with the last two PMs.

From what I can tell, Sunak might actually do a pretty good job there; and for the time being that may be preferable over the delays and uncertainty of a general election. At least for now, considering the state of things.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by sbuk on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:24AM (#33274335)
> "stability and level-headedness that has been lacking with the last two PMs."

We're not going to get that with the current incumbent party.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by cjrp on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:14AM (#33274196)
The trouble is he doesn’t have the support of much of the party, and that inherently leads to instability.
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by pclmulqdq on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:26AM (#33274373)
He, and many others, actually does seem to have the support of a lot of the party. Liz Truss didn't - she just had the support of the current party leadership.

They made the mistake of putting up two incredibly unpopular candidates for PM to the party members in the most recent PM selection process. I'm not sure they will make the same mistake again.

At the same time, they did just have an election, so it's not like they are going to be interested in having another one. Labour-aligned folks are calling for one for obvious reasons.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by matthewmacleod on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:36AM (#33274507)
He, and many others, actually does seem to have the support of a lot of the party. Liz Truss didn't - she just had the support of the current party leadership.

This is pretty much the exact opposite of true – Truss had the support of the membership, and did not have the support of the "leadership" or the parliamentary party. Sunak was the other way round.

At the same time, they did just have an election, so it's not like they are going to be interested in having another one

There's not really another choice, though it's possible that only one candidate will stand, in which case an election is avoided.

Labour-aligned folks are calling for one for obvious reasons.

They're calling for a general election, not a Conservative leadership election.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by pclmulqdq on Thursday October 20, 2022 @10:05AM (#33274864)
They will definitely have a leadership election.

Lots of people here and labor-aligned folks in the UK want another general election.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by jlokier on Thursday October 20, 2022 @11:07AM (#33275870)
Perhaps worth adding that right now, according to polls, a large majority of UK folks are labour-aligned, a complete U-turn compared with how they voted in the 2019 general election.

The current prime minister was voted into position by just 0.2% of the population (conservative party members only - unlike the USA, very few people are registered members of any party in the UK). That was not just a vote for a person, it was a vote for their radical change of policy direction as well, which they set out before the vote.

Yet another prime minister voted in by 0.2% of the population who are particularly unrepresentive, to enact policies diametrically opposed to the formal manifesto pledges at the last general election, is about as far as you can get from what the people appear to want.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by ycombigator on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:44PM (#33281789)
Truss being an absolute moron didn't help.
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by Beltalowda on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:23AM (#33274321)
He didn't do badly in the last election. He doesn't have the full support of the party, but neither had Truss, and who really does in the first place, especially when things are not going so well?
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by sbuk on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:25AM (#33274347)
Do you expect a different outcome?
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by Beltalowda on Thursday October 20, 2022 @09:39AM (#33274546)
With Sunak as PM? Yes. He pretty much called Truss's plans stupid in so many words, and predicted the effects during the last leadership election. This is not really an especially high bar to clear as many people said so. The question isn't whether Sunak is the best possible PM, but what the best possible option is right now given the circumstances: a somewhat stable and "normal" person as PM vs. a general election?

It's easy to say "Tories bad, they got to go", but it's not that simple.

Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by sbuk on Thursday October 20, 2022 @01:52PM (#33278251)
The big question is whether he can unify the Tories, or at least gain the majority backing him, which I doubt as the current members seem hell bent on their own power gains and increasing their own wealth no matter the cost to our economy. The real danger in another indeterminate period of this farce.
Re:UK Prime Minister Liz Truss resigns after just 45 days in... by ycombigator on Thursday October 20, 2022 @06:43PM (#33281778)
The problem isn't full support, it's active hostility of those who are "loyal" to Johnson.