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Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by eropple on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @07:25PM (#3326911)
Disagree. It's gotten better, but the tooling is awkward, the commonly used UI (TortoiseGit) is wonky, and not being a "native citizen" on the OS isn't acceptable--MSYS is a mess to have around on a Windows machine and even the "minimal subset" that you can install with Git is more than I consider acceptable. (I realize that entirely too much of Git is UNIX-based plumbing, but that's their problem.)

I gave Git another shot when Bitbucket started to support it (I won't use GitHub, as it happens), but it didn't shake out for the above reasons. I like being able to open stuff up on any of my machines and the lack of care I perceive in Git on Windows drives me to stay with hg a lot more than it would otherwise.

Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by notatoad on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @07:37PM (#3326951)
git GUIs on windows are all pretty weak, but the git command line and git bash work perfectly well.

my experience with git GUIs in general (regardless of the OS) is that you should just give up and use the CLI.

Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by eropple on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @10:00PM (#3327363)
Cool, great. Except that the Windows command line sucks and bash is uncomfortable to the point of unusability on Windows. I will use a shell (not bash) on Unix platforms where it is properly integrated and meshes with the rest of my workflow; this is not Windows, and attempting to attach it to Windows with baling wire does not work for me.

My experience with source control systems--you know, including ones that aren't git--is that you can generally find a good UI for them. SourceTree on Mac is great for hg and git. Tower is great for git, too. Even TortoiseHg is a country mile past TortoiseGit in usefulness.

Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by Flow on Thursday December 08, 2011 @01:12PM (#3330286)
I use M-x eshell in Windows to get a somewhat comfy command line.
Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by eropple on Thursday December 08, 2011 @10:24PM (#3332385)
Tried it, despite not being an Emacs guy - it's better, but not great.

Honestly, when I wasted time (and it really was a waste) using Cygwin or similar stuff, I just ran sshd and SSH'd to myself from Penguinet.

Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by axefrog on Thursday December 08, 2011 @05:37AM (#3328570)
Powershell + msysgit work just fine. It puzzles me why people still keep referring to ye olde command prompt as "the windows command line" when Powershell has actually been around for years now and (while significantly different to bash) is extremely capable. My only complaint really is the lack of dynamic resizing without first consulting the options box.
Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by bostonvaulter2 on Thursday December 08, 2011 @06:37AM (#3328694)
You might be able to use Console2 to get dynamic realizing. It works for me with got bash at least.
Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by lcapaldo on Thursday December 08, 2011 @08:13AM (#3328904)
Use Powershell ISE for dynamic resizing and other niceties.
Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by drawkbox on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @07:45PM (#3326984)
After using Tower on Mac you may change your mind. If there was a client like that on Windows it would win. Currently hg integrates cleanly and more of a svn replacement since it is more open. Note: I code mainly on osx but some .net only on windows.

I always thought it was cool that Mercurial is written in Python, part of that cross platform magic.

Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by malkia on Wednesday December 07, 2011 @07:43PM (#3326974)
cygwin's gitk works just fine. (or sh -c "git gui")
Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by nahname on Thursday December 08, 2011 @01:27AM (#3327986)
I think poor IDE support is pretty unilateral because git is supposed to used from a command line. It is great to work with a tool where the UI is an after thought because the UI will always be cumbersome with something as complex as source control.

msysgit works great, has for years. The install is simple enough a non-technical person can do it. I've used git on projects with non-technical people checking in from the command line. It is pretty surprising to see a PM have an easier time than a dev only because they don't have years of UI driven source control working against them. Using source control from the command line... well that is the trick. Though I haven't met many great developers who cannot.

Also, git extensions is pretty good (better than tortoise). I usually install it because viewing the history from the IDE is a nice way to keep your flow going. You can do some creative things searching through the logs as well.

Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by lusr on Thursday December 08, 2011 @05:46AM (#3328600)
I initially struggled with Git on Windows (TortoiseGit was buggy and I'm not a fan of command line) and passed it up for Hg. I took a look back in April (since I liked where GitHub & Bitbucket were going whereas the equivalents for Hg were not as impressive) and since then I've been using GitExtensions + the Git Source Control Provider for Visual Studio with zero issues and have thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by vyrotek on Sunday December 11, 2011 @12:25AM (#3339348)
Sounds like we had similar experiences. I went to HG but then gave Git another attempt because I didn't like feeling defeated. I've since been using TortoiseGit and it's OK. I've heard of that VS Git extension before. Maybe it's time I give it a go.
Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by rodh257 on Thursday December 08, 2011 @12:36AM (#3327846)
Have you tried GitExtensions at all? GUI client that integrates with Explorer and visual studio.
Re:Phil Haack quit Microsoft for GitHub by eropple on Thursday December 08, 2011 @10:24PM (#3332388)
Not recently - it was very unstable when I tried before. These days I have no call for it because all my projects are in hg.