The Proton, the ‘Most Complicated Thing’ Imaginable

Re:The Proton, the ‘Most Complicated Thing’ Imaginable by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @12:23PM (#33264455)

Are gluons virtual? (Or are they virtual inside a proton?)

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Re:The Proton, the ‘Most Complicated Thing’ Imaginable by frutiger on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @12:46PM (#33264751)

Gluons are real.

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Re:The Proton, the ‘Most Complicated Thing’ Imaginable by blueprint on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @04:16PM (#33267418)

Virtual particles are also "real", and if you don't believe me, at least you have to admit that virtual photons alone lead to real energy (e.g. Casimir effect) - and it has also been stated that gluons within protons can be interpreted as "virtual"... so I'm pretty sure your comment is wrong. I'd downvote you if I could since that seems to be what the cool kids here are doing but I used up all my karma telling the truth.

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Re:The Proton, the ‘Most Complicated Thing’ Imaginable by hilbert42 on Friday October 21, 2022 @03:40AM (#33285531)

"Virtual particles are also "real"."

No doubt, and Casimir is probably sufficient evidence, but it seems to me a lot of confusion would be saved if we changed the name.

To what I don't know but something like say quantum energy disturbance but more eloquent.

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Re:The Proton, the ‘Most Complicated Thing’ Imaginable by blueprint on Saturday October 22, 2022 @02:59PM (#33301080)

100%. "Possible" particle? :)

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Re:The Proton, the ‘Most Complicated Thing’ Imaginable by cwillu on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @05:05PM (#33267928)

Your question is can be posed as “is there a well-behaved resonance of the gluon field in a proton, that lasts long enough for it to be identified”. It's kinda like identifying a bubble in a pot of cold water vs a pot just starting to boil vs a rolling boil.

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