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Re:Office Vacancy Rate in San Francisco Just Hit a New High by Kon-Peki on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:22PM (#33249840)
From the listing:

> Fees Include: Common Area Electricity, Door Person, Insurance (Common Area), Landscaping/Gardening, Management Fee, Pools, Spa, or Tennis, Reserves, Security Service, Water

> HOA Amenities: Community Pool, Door Person, Elevator, Gym/ Exercise Facility

That stuff costs money; if you don't want it then that isn't the building for you! Having recently moved from a condo to a non-HOA house, I am realizing how much extra time it takes to maintain a house (plus all the little extra costs here and there that add up). Condo HOAs are a mandatory convenience fee, and if you are a busy person they might really be worth it.

Single-family detached house subdivisions with HOAs are a different world. Stay far far away.

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