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Re:Office Vacancy Rate in San Francisco Just Hit a New High by bombcar on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:16PM (#33249717)
HOAs can go from the bare minimum "we pay someone to mow the center divider" (some will actually exist and have no fees) to the "we pay for the entire country club this house is part of, including limo service and more".

Condo HOAs usually cover the maintenance of the shared building parts (HVAC, roof, plumbing outside the units, etc). One danger sign is a condo with a HOA that is too low - it likely means maintenance is being put off or done incorrectly or you're going to get hit with a special assessment soon.

Re:Office Vacancy Rate in San Francisco Just Hit a New High by ericbarrett on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:36PM (#33250106)
Yes, but I ended up buying a 1br in SF for a comparable price. The HOA fee was $650/mo. The building had 24/7 front desk staff, twice-monthly unit cleaning service, a small gym, a hot tub, and a full-time building engineer. All the while dealing with a lawsuit against the builder for leaks. And our reserve was quite funded. Where was the money going in Chicago?
Re:Office Vacancy Rate in San Francisco Just Hit a New High by fshbbdssbbgdd on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:57PM (#33250446)
Probably worse maintenance issues, and no builder to fix it for them.
Re:Office Vacancy Rate in San Francisco Just Hit a New High by bombcar on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @02:04PM (#33251489)
If they were suing the builder, it was probably still a relatively new building.

Older buildings start getting hit with the "every 20/50 years" maintenance, and also get hit with lawsuits against the building/HOA itself. Those can start to add up over time.

And the size of the building can also affect it; a smaller building with the same amenities would have higher HOA fees.

I personally wouldn't touch them with a fifty state pole, but some people like it.