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Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by OJFord on Monday October 17, 2022 @09:06PM (#33241766)
Why do they need to have one? I dislike phone reliance (both in myself and others) and have spent periods without one. I think I've settled on having one for certain conveniences, but it's perfectly possible not to (especially if one 'HATE's it so much).
Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by kalleboo on Monday October 17, 2022 @09:47PM (#33242032)
There are restaurants with only digital menus, there are bars that only take electronic payments, gyms that only have a digital membership card, parking lots only payable via app, during covid there were countries that required quarantine apps on entry.

Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity.

Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by ravel-bar-foo on Monday October 17, 2022 @10:20PM (#33242220)
This is doubly annoying as a tourist or immigrant: no, I don't have a local phone number, I don't have a bank account here, and I don't want to install $APP that is ubiquitous in your country but controlled by $Evilcorp.

Examples from several different countries: getting around without rideshare/taxi hailing apps, 'self check-in' gyms in Seoul, Covid-related QR codes to get into restaurants, stores that only take mobile payments.

Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by s0rce on Monday October 17, 2022 @10:05PM (#33242132)
I hate digital menus. I don't like being on my phone when I go out for dinner (unless I'm by myself) and looking at a nice menu was part of the experience.
Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by ravel-bar-foo on Monday October 17, 2022 @10:24PM (#33242250)
Seoul has been 'modernizing' bus stops. The route information, which used to be printed on posters at 1200 dpi, is now visible on large screens at 300 dpi, but the graphics have not been updated. As a result it is very challenging to see the details of most routes.
Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by zdragnar on Monday October 17, 2022 @10:20PM (#33242219)
Dang. Literally none of those things exist where I live in the US. In fact, there's a food truck that comes through every once in awhile that is still cash-only.
Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by serf on Monday October 17, 2022 @09:58PM (#33242099)
>Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity.

conversely the only reason that these companies enforce such policies is because they get away with doing so and people participate.

Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by ls15 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @02:19AM (#33243601)
> Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity.

Not only, you are also casting a vote:

"I am very sorry, but I usually don't have my phone with me, seems like I need to bring my money to another business."

Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by OJFord on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:06AM (#33243953)
> Sure you could say "just don't go to those places" but then you're slowly withdrawing from society as these things gain in ubiquity.

I do say that, that all sounds crap and I don't want any of it even though I have a phone. (And it isn't my experience, I believe it exists but it's absolutely not hard to ignore.)

Again, if they all-caps-hate it so much...

Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by LtWorf on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @05:55AM (#33244992)
> There are restaurants with only digital menus

I've walked out of places because of that.

Re:Does cashless society discriminate against the poor and e... by nicbou on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @01:24AM (#33243267)
SMS and app-based confirmation codes, phone number verification requirements, app-exclusive features, QR codes to see the menu, etc etc.