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Re:'It's a scam': self-driving cars are going nowhere by randomdata on Sunday October 16, 2022 @05:29PM (#33227352)
I think it is fair to draw some parallels between Tesla and Theranos, but the topic here is self-driving cars, not Tesla.
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Re:'It's a scam': self-driving cars are going nowhere by paulryanrogers on Sunday October 16, 2022 @05:56PM (#33227511)
How is Tesla's FSD off topic during a discussion of self driving cars?
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Re:'It's a scam': self-driving cars are going nowhere by randomdata on Sunday October 16, 2022 @07:32PM (#33228170)
Tesla FSD is a product (or possibly a scam under the guise of a product). Self-driving cars are a concept.
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Re:'It's a scam': self-driving cars are going nowhere by paulryanrogers on Sunday October 16, 2022 @08:13PM (#33228464)
Why would a real product named "self driving" not be relevant to a discussion on the concept?
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Re:'It's a scam': self-driving cars are going nowhere by randomdata on Sunday October 16, 2022 @09:15PM (#33228828)
The discussion isn’t about the concept. The discussion is about how the concept isn’t a scam.
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Re:'It's a scam': self-driving cars are going nowhere by paulryanrogers on Monday October 17, 2022 @08:50AM (#33232761)
IMO an example of self driving that is a scam is relevant to whether the concept as a whole may be a scam too.

Of course a counter example would be just as relevant since it could prove the concept isn't entirely a scam.

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Re:'It's a scam': self-driving cars are going nowhere by randomdata on Monday October 17, 2022 @08:52AM (#33232769)
The example wasn't even that of a self-driving car related scam, but a scam found in the automated blood testing industry.
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Re:'It's a scam': self-driving cars are going nowhere by paulryanrogers on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @01:46PM (#33251226)
I raise Tesla as an example of a scam similar to Thermos in that it's crossed from naivete to fraud. And considering the stuttering progress of self driving by Uber and even Waymo (in adverse conditions) it may well be self driving as a concept is premature. So attempts to market and sell it as is (beta or not) are fraud.
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