Came here to say this as well. Actively considering selling my Samsung S20 for a pure linux phone. Something like https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/cosmo-communicator

/Can/ one run mainline GNU/Linux on the Cosmo Communicator? On their website, it says Linux and Sailfish OS support are planned, but not ready yet. And, will it be pure Linux, or will it be running on top of Androids HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer)?

My understanding is that the Pinephone, Pinephone Pro, or Librem 5 are the only pure Linux phones available... and the Librem 5 is 'barely' available given the long lead time on orders.

Technically, Maemo Leste is a pure Linux option on some older handsets, but I'm not sure any of them support VoLTE, so increasingly that would mean no telephony support... depending on where one is in the world and whether they've dropped 3G and 4G non-LTE calling.

I would love to know if there's other pure Linux options.

Last I remember checking in on this properly, it was basically as you are asking, but they also had some thing stated somewhere about supporting things like Kali Linux. So I think the answer is ultimately "yes", but eventually.

LOL.. okay, so we should just ignore Kubernetes as being on of the biggest contributions to scalable environments because it was by Google. Time for everyone to stop using Kubernetes and Android and everything else then in favor of the more open platforms like IOS, amiright?

I think the point they parent posters were making is that with Google you really never know which of their projects will live long and which will get axed.

That makes Google products risky to build your business on.

What company is that not true for?

U must be kidding right? Google axes projects like atleast 1/month. Dont try to make it seem normal.

https://killedbygoogle.com/

The tech in the article is open source, lol.

What does it have to do with anything tho? I mean you could fork Android but its Upstream can still be killed, it wont be maintained by google anymore. You seem to be mixing things.

Something that’s open source can’t be killed.

Yes it can, community fork which aint maintained by Google is not google anymore. Fork all you want, if Google kills it from its repos, its still killed by google.

Microsoft, Amazon, and to a lesser extent even Apple.

all of those companies have also cancelled or killed products and services. you might say Google has killed more, but Google also starts more, so...

> but Google also starts more

Who cares how many they start? They could start a million products per year, and that would not change the fact that depending on a Google service involves considerable risk.

I'm not sure why you're working so hard to defend this hill, but it would seem your local minima is within a deep crater.

I'm in full agreement here, Google starts more products and kills more products. So that means... I'm less trusting that any google product is to survive. That was the original point made above.

You’re being too dramatic, https://killedbygoogle.com/ was made for a reason.

When was the last time you heard about a major Google data breach?

I’m kind of a Google-hater myself but… there’s few companies that could do better security.

Data breaches can happen to anyone, but what the original comment implies is that Google would compromise your security, or at least your privacy, for profit. Its main profit venue is tracking people and selling ads.

2018: https://firewalltimes.com/google-data-breach-timeline/

Is that a breach? As far as I know, the description of that is "a google-internal audit found that some information was accessible but shouldn't have been, and found no evidence that that was accessed or used by anyone".

"Breach" usually implies actual misuse or access.