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Re:Automating screenshots for the Datasette documentation us... by stavros on Saturday October 15, 2022 @05:51PM (#33218990)
> I'm building out the SaaS version of Datasette at the moment, maybe a free preview of that would help?

Maybe, though my issue hasn't been so much installing it as getting it to do useful things.

Your use cases sound great, thanks. Especially "Snowflake for small data" sounds great, I did want something like a simple PowerBI for my small SQLite database. If I could somehow create a dashboard, or some views, or something, and publish them along with my database, that would be amazing.

Plugins do sound good too, but when I download Datasette I already have something in mind so I already want it to come with the most common things I might want to use, along with examples on how to use them.

Vega was the plugin I found as well, but I remember it took me too long to figure out how to make a simple graph, so I quit at that point. If it were built-in, along with a bunch of other plugins, and I had an example of how I could create some simple graphs, I would have gotten much farther along, I think.

Re:Automating screenshots for the Datasette documentation us... by simonw on Saturday October 15, 2022 @06:20PM (#33219184)
OK, I really like how you're framing this in terms of the first-run experience.

Running "brew/pip install datasette" isn't much help if you don't have a SQLite database already. So now you need to learn to use "sqlite-utils" or similar too to create one... by which point I could absolutely see most people having dropped off already.

I had a feature idea relating to this a while back which I should bump up the list: https://github.com/simonw/datasette/issues/1160

I opened a new issue based on this conversation here: https://github.com/simonw/datasette/issues/1845

Re:Automating screenshots for the Datasette documentation us... by stavros on Saturday October 15, 2022 @06:36PM (#33219289)
Ah yes, that was another one of my problems. I had a CSV and had to figure out a way to convert that into a DB. I could have created a table and written an import script, but I think I did end up using `csvs-to-sqlite`. You're right, if Datasette could import my data from the CSV, even if the schema wasn't very reasonable, that would have gone a long way towards helping my first-run experience.

Generally, the first-run experience is really important, because you may be getting lots of people in the funnel, but if you're losing them to complexity before they can get to the "this is nice" moment, it's for nothing.

Even something like finding plugins can be hard for first-timers, and you unfortunately don't hear about all the users who drop out, because they just stop using the software and never talk to you.