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Re:$100B later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck by onethought on Saturday October 15, 2022 @07:41AM (#33213937)
What sensor suite is that?
Re:$100B later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck by oliveshell on Saturday October 15, 2022 @08:56AM (#33214368)
Radar, ultrasonic proximity sensors, and/or LIDAR, presumably.

Tesla has famously removed all radar/ultrasonic sensors from their newer cars in favor of a purely camera-based system.

Re:$100B later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck by onethought on Saturday October 15, 2022 @04:32PM (#33218333)
But they removed them well after they showed they could accurately predict distance with vision.

LiDAR doesn’t make sense as a sensor to me because it only works in good weather. Its Like a car without windscreen wipers.

Re:$100B later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck by onethought on Saturday October 15, 2022 @09:51PM (#33220404)
Appreciate the downvote/disagreement.

But here is Karpathy explaining how vision can be used to measure distance to objects accurately[0]

Here is the fact that LiDAR doesn't work in the rain[1]: "... In heavy rain, for example, the light pulses emitted from the lidar system are partially reflected off of rain droplets which adds noise to the data, called 'echoes'."

Which logically implies you need to revert to vision, as see [0] also for why Radar is unreliable.

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bOwQdCJrc [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidar

Re:$100B later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck by sneak on Saturday October 15, 2022 @06:48PM (#33219354)
How do humans drive without these sensors?
Re:$100B later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck by maleldil on Saturday October 15, 2022 @07:30PM (#33219619)
With superior reasoning abilities. Extra sensors generating more data make reasoning simpler.
Re:$100B later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck by onethought on Saturday October 15, 2022 @09:53PM (#33220415)
Except that Radar and LiDAR send false negatives in poor weather/conditions. Making reasoning harder.
Re:$100B later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck by panick21_ on Sunday October 16, 2022 @04:27PM (#33226916)
Extra sensors also generate a lot of extra complexity in fusing all the sensors into a common consistent view of the world. And if your goal is just 'more data' then you might as well just add more cameras, that's also 'more data'. I guess what you wanted to say way 'diverse data'.

As with everything else there are benefits and costs to those approaches.