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Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by tristanj on Monday October 17, 2022 @10:46PM (#33242397)
How does this post have so many points (350+ right now), yet no comments?
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by gaganyaan on Monday October 17, 2022 @11:11PM (#33242540)
That is weird. I opened this thread because I saw one comment and 630 upvotes, which seemed off. Makes sense though that the one comment was noting the weird ratio.

It might be a bot network upvoting this, but I'm not sure what motive there is in setting your bot network on upvoting a CS paper from 60 years ago.

EDIT: I'm guessing it's a repost from the second-chance pool. hn.algolia.com shows this as having been posted 3 days ago.

Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by butterNaN on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @05:39PM (#33254378)
> It might be a bot network upvoting this, but I'm not sure what motive there is in setting your bot network on upvoting a CS paper from 60 years ago

A demonstration that it works

Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by nestorD on Monday October 17, 2022 @11:18PM (#33242579)
people loving the idea and upvoting before reading the text (they are still reading) or people intrigued and upvoting in the hope that someone else read and then summarizes the text?
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by cosentiyes on Monday October 17, 2022 @11:36PM (#33242673)
feels unlikely that 900 people are upvoting while reading and that it takes ~1 hour per page...
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by nazka on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @02:03AM (#33243510)
It is still very weird. The ratio of upvotes and comments is way off for posts that are upvoted like that. Also with this amount of votes it’s starting to be one of the highlights of the last 6 month maybe the year…
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by tbeseda on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:13AM (#33242883)
1,400+ points now. and climbing. 8 comments... fishy for sure
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by diimdeep on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:27AM (#33244088)
Maybe someone demoed bot farm?
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by josephcsible on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @09:59PM (#33256526)
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by divs1210 on Monday October 17, 2022 @11:44PM (#33242727)
The paper is surreal.

An AI paper that starts with experiments on drowning cats and religious chimpanzees.

Then it talks about making the system by cutting up a large wire mesh and assembling it back randomly.

Then it talks about simulating the system on a computer, and coding it in a programming language called YAWN that is like English.

Then it says that they could not obtain the machine that runs YAWN programs, so they emulated that machine on another computer (IBM 704).

Then it says (excitedly) that the machine printed gibberish when presented with a certain input and on another run ejected the input punched card twice.

I'm not sure if this is real or a joke.

I'm not sure if the experiment itself was designed as a joke to waste US military's computer time.

I'm not sure if this has some deep lessons.

To me, it felt like when Dumbledore set the chicken on fire in HPMOR.

Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by singularity2001 on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @02:06AM (#33243528)
Paper from April 1984 reporting results from 1961? ...
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by inetsee on Monday October 17, 2022 @11:49PM (#33242755)
I got to the end of the paper before I noticed that it was published in the April issue of Communications of the ACM. I have a hard time believing that this is not an April Fool's Day joke.

I provide as evidence this line from near the end of the paper: "Thanks are due ... to Mr. V. A. Vyssotsky for manually simulating the 704 simulating STRETCH simulating Chaostron"

Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by vincent-manis on Monday October 17, 2022 @11:58PM (#33242802)
The 704 was a vacuum tube machine (predecessor of the 709 and later on the transistorized 7040/7090 series). STRETCH (IBM 7030) was a vastly faster system (of which about 30 total were sold, hence the difficulty of getting one for this project). Simulating a STRETCH on a 704 would be ghastly. I have no idea what the effect of doing this manually would have been on Mr Vyssotsky.

Vyssotsky later achieved some notoriety as the technical lead on an obscure project called Multics.

Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by Paedor on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @12:01AM (#33242820)
Pretty nice satire once you realize it's a joke. My favorite quote is definitely "(where by curiosity," of course, we do not mean to imply that anthropomorphic categories or judgements should be applied to machines, but merely that the machines have a desire to learn).
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by KETpXDDzR on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @03:34PM (#33252700)
Looks like someone is testing their HN upvote farm...
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by oriettaxx on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @11:40PM (#33257324)
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by adultSwim on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @12:29PM (#33264539)
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by abrax3141 on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @10:21AM (#33262622)
OP here. Not my bot net, not my bots! (Do I get the karma anyway since I was the one attacked? :-)
Re:The Chaostron: An Important Advance in Learning Machines ... by arendtio on Wednesday October 19, 2022 @02:31PM (#33266098)
Up voted by a bot net, but still part of the 'Best' list ;-)

Anyway, I enjoyed reading about Chaostron, even if it might have more up votes than it would have without the bot net.