Ctrl-this, Ctrl-that... Lisp and vimscript... h, j, k, l... fuck you! I want to fucking do my work, not solve a 10,000 pieces puzzle or memorize 100,000 different fucking things that follow no discernible pattern.

It's an excuse to spend all day configuring dotfiles and talking about dotfiles. Fuck dotfiles with fire from a volcano. Fuck vim AND emacs.

And if I am in a SSH session, then I'll use fucking nano. Yes, nano. Any problem with nano? I don't care. At least you can exit the fucking thing. Fuck it.

But I've discovered that by using vim macros, the tedious parts of using nano became easy and FASTER then nano.

Let's say you have to declare a bunch of IP's and you can't just type a range, you have to type out each one.

192.168.0.100 192.168.0.101 ...etc... 192.168.0.199 192.168.0.200

In nano: copy/paste each line then backspace to change the last octet. TEDIOUS

In vim: write it once record a macro of doing it a second time auto-incrementing the last octet. now type: 199@w (or whatever letter you stored that macro in) BOOM, 199 new lines have been input.

That 1 use case, made me use vim more. Then I got better. Then I got faster.

Now I can edit those same old config files faster then I once did in nano. Please believe me, it's worth the learning curve. There is SO MUCH MORE available then just editing some config files.

Nano is fine. There is nothing wrong with nano. If you only edit (config) files a couple of times a year, then maybe you won't want to switch. But I'm so much better at vim then I was before, I use it to do ALL my writing and editing.

    printf '192.168.0.%s ' {100..200} > fuck_vim.txt

But clearly it isn't for you. It isn't for me either, though I did try. I just don't really have a reproducible workflow (I'm not a dev). In that case the setup overhead does indeed not pay off. If you spend every day in an IDE I could definitely see it working out.

Even on my work mac I often prefer using the cli for things that others would do in the GUI. They find that archaic and overly complex. I find it simple and faster. Opinions vary :)

You could memorize the entire Sacred Scrolls from Planet of the Apes, that doesn't make it practical.

See, this is the shit you have to endure from vim users.

Thanks to the great people running the economy, if you get to survive all layoffs taking place and vest that money, you'll be able to buy an avocado toast made of soylent green in the metaverse of the future. You will own nothing and be happy.

It’ll take less than 5 minutes to install a Neovim-based IDE-like environment; batteries included:

    bash <(curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lunarvim/lunarvim/master/utils/installer/install.sh)

    echo "Fuck vim" > /etc/motd

For example browsers. Whenever there is a Must Have extension that basically everyone downloads and installs, we should not be saying "See! It's great that software has plugins and extensions!" We should be saying "The development team totally missed this."

I recommend learning about Unix and the associated philosophies - you sound like there’s a lot more growth in your future!

The main problem with VIM is that nobody reads the documentation, and jumps directly trying to configure vim to imitate what they experienced with other softwares.

Most VIM users never understand VIM philosophy and inner mechanism supporting it. They just try to bend VIM into another graphical code editor.

It's like the meme about "exiting vim". It is pointless. Once you understand VIM you never need to exit it. Just Ctrl-z or use neovim terminal if needed.

The best challenge i was given by VIM guru, when i was asking help installing dozen of plugin, was to read the vim doc (:help) and just use for 6 months a VIM pure vanilla, without any plugin and minimal vimrc. After more than 20 years using VIM daily, i just understood i never learn how to use VIM and were just an adept of CARGO-CULT, victim of mass spread anti-pattern.

What are some examples of plugins people commonly use that you think are useless?

Mastering the commandline is of course still important, just please not for editing code.

And if you install a proper plugin that uses language servers, you're at the same level of VSCode, which I'm pretty sure is the most used editor by a wide margin.

Your rant sounds more like you're more annoyed by "wannabe-vim-hackers" than any actual limitations of the tools.