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Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by lesuorac on Friday October 14, 2022 @10:19AM (#33203848)
If you don't want to be beholden to the state then don't get a state enforced license.

> 270. (a) It shall constitute unprofessional conduct for a physician and surgeon to disseminate misinformation or disinformation related to COVID-19, including false or misleading information regarding the nature and risks of the virus, its prevention and treatment; and the development, safety, and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines.

> (3) “Disseminate” means the conveyance of information from the licensee to a patient under the licensee’s care in the form of treatment or advice.

This only applies to a Doctor advising their patients. If you don't think professional conduct means accurately representing a course of treatment and it's risk I don't know what to say to you.

Sure, there could be a slippery slope to where disseminate doesn't mean only between a Licensee but that was always true.

Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by jsnk on Friday October 14, 2022 @10:36AM (#33204075)
Your take is: "You got a state license, so you should accept whatever the government decides to do with state license."

Let that sink in.

Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by lesuorac on Friday October 14, 2022 @10:43AM (#33204186)
No, my take is that you should manage your risk. If you don't want the risk of the state changing its rules don't tie your employment to that state.

My second point is that professionals should already accurately tell the truth to their patients.

Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by AnimalMuppet on Friday October 14, 2022 @11:58AM (#33205255)
The truth, or what the state decides is the truth? Those are not always the same thing.
Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by lesuorac on Friday October 14, 2022 @02:09PM (#33206887)
Sure.

Professionals should be sticking to positive statements [1] though. So saying something like, the covid vaccine will give you austim I think should be grounds for losing your license.

On the other hand, saying something like, there's a high change you'll have flu like symptoms if you get the vaccine would not be grounds (the symptoms are disclosed as part of the vaccine trials).

But saying something like, I would like to try X treatment that isn't typically done but I've done it a few times recently and had good results I think should also be fine.

The law makes the claim of "contemporary scientific consensus contrary to the standard of care" which I think is a very reasonable statement. In general, you want people to recommend treatments that historically have worked for a condition. And for experimental type situations all the Licensee needs to do is to make it clear that the treatment isn't backed up by existing studies.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_statement

Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by skissane on Friday October 14, 2022 @03:40PM (#33207951)
> The law makes the claim of "contemporary scientific consensus contrary to the standard of care"

One thing I have observed - a lot of what people call “scientific consensus” is not the consensus of the research literature, rather it is the “consensus” of position statements put out by professional bodies. The later often lack much of the tentative and provisional nature of the former, with doubts and uncertainties being hidden rather than highlighted. While even peer-reviewed research is not immune to political pressures, these kinds of “position statements” are much more susceptible to political influence than the former are.

Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by Ferrotin on Friday October 14, 2022 @12:19PM (#33205527)
I want a doctor who isn’t beholden to the state.
Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by xyzzyz on Friday October 14, 2022 @03:38PM (#33207920)
> If you don't think professional conduct means accurately representing a course of treatment and it's risk I don't know what to say to you.

What if, you know, accurately representing a course of treatment required contradicting CDC/FDA? Say, suppose you’re a medical researcher, doing science, and you find that CDC/FDA are completely wrong on some count (as they have been many, many times in the past). Are they supposed to just repeat CDC-blessed falsehoods that they know to be false? Do you want to institute an office of the arbiters of truth, such that it is legally forbidden to disagree with them?

Re:Turkey adopts media law jailing for spreading ‘disinforma... by ccn0p on Saturday October 15, 2022 @01:24PM (#33216709)
Do you really think the state knows the best possible treatment for you rather than your family doctor who has seen you for years, knows your family history, and can assess the situation right there holding your hand and hearing your voice? I fear a future for my children where people think it's the former and the "standard of care" is forced upon them.