Re:Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)
by monetus on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:56PM
(#33179747)
The network effect of signal not being a hub for SMS and e2ee will mean less people using e2ee, IMO.
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Re:Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)
by NoGravitas on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:18PM
(#33180072)
Yeah, I think this is more likely to be the case. People who don't understand encryption but used Signal as their SMS messenger were at least getting opportunistic encryption with any of their contacts who were using Signal. Now they'll probably just uninstall it (like every iOS Signal user I've ever known).
Re:Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)
by dodgerdan on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:02PM
(#33179834)
A few years ago I would have agreed, but right now Signal is doing just fine taking users from WhatsApp (FB TOS changes + ads + social group analysis)and Telegram (sketchy non-e2ee, Russian owned, based in the middle east).
Re:Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)
by monetus on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:09PM
(#33179956)
Weird, I am in the southeast U.S. and telegram is eating signal's lunch in the social networks here.
Re:Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)
by dodgerdan on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:21PM
(#33180104)
It’s a big pie, they’re also fairly different. And to be honest it’s only a matter of time before Telegram has a (public) security incident that drives much more people to E2EE messaging.
Re:Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)
by monetus on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @02:11PM
(#33180764)
I'm curious how long it will be before that public incident - they rolled their own cryptography right? With that, I would imagine that if it hasn't been pwned yet, then there would be a disproportionate amount of people trying to do so.
Re:Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)
by brational on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @07:19PM
(#33185081)
Rolled their own and off by default.
Re:Removing SMS support from Signal Android (soon)
by stirfish on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:24PM
(#33180144)
What people are concerned enough about a Terms of Service change to leave Whatsapp, but struggle with the unlocked icon next to "Insecure SMS" in Signal?
What people know that Telegram isn't end-to-end encrypted, but think SMS is?