Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by notch656a on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:37PM
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The average person can do more to influence a local mafia boss than they can to influence the federal government. Hell if you have a few dozen friends with guns you can actually stop the mafia from fucking with you for as long as they stick around.
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by arcticfox on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:49PM
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> Hell if you have a few dozen friends with guns you can actually stop the mafia from fucking with you for as long as they stick around.
Go try this in the favela near me and report back. The last group of locals that tried that were beheaded.
I'm beginning to think there's a time limit on relatively fair and effective states, as citizens slowly begin to become almost unbelievably blind to what actual criminal states are like and start dismantling their own institutions.
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by notch656a on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:46PM
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The institution of the federal government has grown ever more powerful and consuming of peace-time GDP compared to non-war times of ~100+ years ago. Far from dismantling, the consolidation and growth of power of the 'effective state' has created criminals of the common populace in an ever growing compendium of laws.
In no way has the federal government been 'dismantled' as time goes on. Although arguably the constitution has been dismantled, in no small part through ever expanding interpretation of the commerce clause.
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by themitigating on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:55PM
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So instead of lobbying with a group of citizens to get someone elected it's easier to start an armed attack on the mob leadership?
If you lose your dead, that's not the case in a democracy
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by notch656a on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @04:17PM
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A pure democracy is if you lose you can be voted dead. In a constitutional democracy it may not be so direct: i.e. if the majority elect officials that favor say large automotive companies that are permitted to introduce externalities to the water supply that make you dead (see flint water crisis) -- or say your county elects a sheriff who is known to shoot people in 'bad shoots' and then the democratically elected officials prevent effective prosecution of these murders.
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by themitigating on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @09:04PM
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That's an indirect death. In the mafia analogy the mafia is the government and challenging them requires force which can result in death.
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by themitigating on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @03:09PM
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Yet in areas where the mob is in control does that happen. Look at Mexican drug lords
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by pnemonic on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @12:45PM
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As an individual citizen, that comparison isn't quite that ridiculous.
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by scarface74 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:34PM
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How often do “elected officials” do anything against law enforcement? Every politician in any city knows not to go against the local police department.
Re:FBI Monitored Aretha Franklin for Years, File Shows
by eternalban on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @04:41PM
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Someone didn't watch Godfather.
What a ridiculous comparison