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Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by fullshark on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:32AM (#33177554)
Well its inevitable to have an ad-tier and an ad-free tier at least. One of the benefits of digital ads v. linear TV ads.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by Msw242 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:47AM (#33177760)
What do you do when you find out that you make more per ad-tier user than you do for ad-free user[0]?

The incentives go in the wrong direction from a UX perspective

[0] https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/hulu-makes-about-15-in-reven...

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by smeyer on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:51AM (#33177824)
Can the answer not just be to charge more for the ad-free tier? The gap between what I'm willing to pay for a streaming service with and without ads is a lot more than what the current going rate is.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by moreira on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:00AM (#33177961)
The problem is that if you increase the price too much, the bad PR and hit to your reputation will likely offset any extra revenue. If a service like Hulu released a $50/mo ad-free tier people would freak out, even if they still had access to the same free ad-tier experience they do now. I don't know that it'd be beneficial.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by lp0_on_fire on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:27AM (#33178396)
This is boiling the frog though? These services were sold to us as something without ads. Seems really mob-like for the services to say to me: pay more or we're going to start showing ads on the thing we sold to you with the promise you wouldn't have any ads.

Rinse and repeat another year later.

Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by smeyer on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:44AM (#33178688)
I don't think that's particularly a problem. Just because Netflix or Hulu offered one service when I first used them a decade ago doesn't mean they're obliged to provide the same service at the same price forever. I occasionally cancel a streaming service if I decide that it's no longer providing enough value to me, just like I'd cancel my current subscriptions if they started adding ads.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by Msw242 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @09:32AM (#33190693)
Because raising prices doesn't necessarily increase revenue.
Re:Apple is quietly pushing a TV ad product with media agencies by Schroedingersat on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:56AM (#33177891)
They'll just make the ad free price higher or the ads more obnoxious (or turn the ad free tier into a slightly less ads tier)