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Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by prepend on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @05:27PM (#33169447)
I’m not sure what a “diverse” parent is or how you would know their mind.

I expect that all parents, regardless of demographic factors, worry about their kid getting a good job and going to school.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by colpabar on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @06:43PM (#33170216)
This seems to be forbidden to say, but for all intents and purposes, “diverse” means “not white”.
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by xboxnolifes on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @07:02PM (#33170395)
And in some cases, not Asian.
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by balls187 on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @07:29PM (#33170636)
And sometimes Asian just means "Chinese, Japense, and Korean"
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by AussieWog93 on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @10:19PM (#33171970)
Not sure why this was downvoted. Asians get discriminated against even harder than whites when applying for elite universities.
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by balls187 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:52PM (#33180521)
Certain asians (Chinese and Indians descent), are over represented in elite universities, so yes, students of those origins face more competition, than say students who are Native American (who are very poorly represented at elite schools).
Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by 31337Logic on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @08:25PM (#33171097)
Except it doesn't seem to mean that (at least not anymore). Hence the exasperated comments you are reading on this very thread.

All people (including whites and heterosexual males) can be the targets of negative discrimination. No one wants to see themselves or their kids be intentionally disadvantaged based solely on the colour of their skin or their sexuality. Any attempt to create ANY exception to this rule is disingenuous and does nothing but further damage the very thing you claim to be trying to resolve.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by prepend on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @09:03AM (#33176316)
Every not white parent I’ve met is concerned with their kid’s future- what job, what education, what marriage, etc.

I’ve met a lot of people from different backgrounds and one thing I notice is how much we have in common. I worked with people who make less than a few dollars a day in developing nations and it was interesting how the parent stories are almost the same. Pictures of kids and grandkids. Stories about successful kids. Plans for kids to have education and jobs. The scale varies but the concerns are very similar.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by balls187 on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @07:25PM (#33170597)
How I know their mind is simple, I am not-white, and my kid's aren't white.

And true, parents do want their kids to succeed in life. But I also worry about how the world will treat my kids, because historically black and brown kids don't get treated well.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by prepend on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @09:08AM (#33176373)
So you know your mind. You don’t know the minds of all not-whites.

I’m pretty sure all parents worry about how the world will treat their kids.

There’s pros and cons to everything. If you’re in the US or Europe, you’re in a very privileged position compared to others in less privileged countries.

To imagine that someone who is not-white will know how all not-white parents think is silly. Even within a small demographic sliver, it seems weird to generalize my thoughts to all people who have my race or culture (eg, it’s lack of critical thinking to think “I’m Vietnamese and my kids are Vietnamese so I know the mind of all Vietnamese parents”)

There is a lot of racism toward black and brown kids and it’s the worst for poor black and brown kids. Hopefully, since you’re reading on HN you have a tech job and make some money. Historically, and presently, poor kids don’t get treated well.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by balls187 on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @01:57PM (#33180590)
You're arguing by straw man.

Worrying about going to a good school and getting a good job is a nice worry to have.

Worrying that your kid will be the next Trayvon Martin is the reality that many-non white parents worry about. I understand you won't ever have to worry about your children like in that manner. That is one of the benefits of being white.

And white people can scream as loud as they want about how it's unfair they are being discriminated against, in reality they just don't get to enjoy all the advantages they had in prior years for being white.

Re:What diversity and inclusion means at Microsoft by randomdata on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @10:41AM (#33177697)
> and going to school.

I'm not concerned about that. A workplace that cares about diversity will not discriminate based on where you went to school.

If businesses are imposing fake diversity measures, my child is doomed regardless of schooling.