Starting a food co-op: Year 1

Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by wonderwonder on Monday October 10, 2022 @09:29PM (#33158407)

I hear what you are saying but again, being "anti-racist" is not a concern of mine. I am not a racist and generally treat everyone I meet the same. I don't have any intention of making "Anti-racism" a part of my personality or understanding it because it is very low on my list of concerns. People are people. They get hired to do a job, I chat with them superficially about what they did during the weekend and that's it. Nothing else really matters. Heck for the most part everyone is just a white name on a black box on zoom now anyway.

"because you can't really, on your own, determine how to "not be racist"" I would argue that I very much can decide on my own. I don't need anyone telling me how to do it. Respectfully, the fact you think you do is a statement about you, not me.

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Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by zzzeek on Monday October 10, 2022 @09:55PM (#33158588)

Which goes back to the original point that you probably would not like belonging to a food coop very much.

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Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by wonderwonder on Monday October 10, 2022 @10:06PM (#33158663)

lol, fair point

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Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by selimthegrim on Monday October 10, 2022 @11:20PM (#33159140)

Can someone decide how not to be anti-Semitic on their own?

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Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by wonderwonder on Monday October 10, 2022 @11:42PM (#33159284)

Of course, why not?

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Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by selimthegrim on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @10:20AM (#33163673)

You might want to tell that to among others Jeffrey Goldberg, who thinks Jews have the exclusive right to define what anti-Semitism is - Google “neocon puppet masters”

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Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by wonderwonder on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @11:50AM (#33164848)

Why do I have to do that? Does Goldberg represent all Jews? Do you think we Jews have each other on speed dial? He's just a dude expressing his opinion. If one jew says something can you just point to him and be like "well the Jews think this"? Much like one black person or even thousands of them shouldn't be able to decide that most people are racist and require everyone to take hours of courses, neither should Jews or anyone else.

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Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by selimthegrim on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @12:38PM (#33165481)

I’m not holding you liable for him, I’m just saying this seems to be a non-negligible school of thought and an assertion that is not easy to respond to as a non-Jew. Goldberg certainly thinks he seems to speak for more than himself.

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Re:Starting a food co-op: Year 1 by wonderwonder on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @03:12PM (#33167833)

So he's a narcissist. No one should get to tell someone else how not to be a racist beyond "hey it's expected that to work here you treat everyone equally and with respect". Telling someone they are potentially a racist or anti-x because they don't follow 15 steps provides in a training that you don't have to follow for anyone else is wrong.

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