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Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by rewgs on Monday October 10, 2022 @01:09PM (#33153916)
This is just so cool and inspiring to me. I check out pretty much everything Andreas puts out.

I wonder if we're watching something comparable to the birth of Linux. I'm not insinuating that Linux would go away or die or anything -- that's absurd -- but I just mean perhaps over time SerenityOS will become more and more used as a "real" OS. For what purpose(s)? No idea. But the whole project really seems to have staying power.

That said, I'm fully with Andreas that having fun and simply building something because you want it to exist are valid goals in and of themselves. Couldn't be happier for him and everyone who contributes to the project.

Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by systemvoltage on Monday October 10, 2022 @01:33PM (#33154177)
He streams regularly, check it out and support if you can: https://www.youtube.com/c/AndreasKling/videos
Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by bee_rider on Monday October 10, 2022 @01:47PM (#33154323)
Where does the money for this project come from?

I kinda wonder if "streamer who develops code" could be a viable open source business model, haha.

Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by forgotpwd16 on Monday October 10, 2022 @02:27PM (#33154825)
Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by Huh1337 on Monday October 10, 2022 @02:24PM (#33154795)
Sponsorship via Github is the primary stream AFAIK
Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by akling on Monday October 10, 2022 @02:33PM (#33154898)
That's right, as of May 2021 I'm working on SerenityOS full time, supported by donations. :)

I posted this about it at the time: https://awesomekling.github.io/I-quit-my-job-to-focus-on-Ser...

Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by rewgs on Monday October 10, 2022 @08:44PM (#33158149)
Yup, I watch his streams religiously.
Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by BirAdam on Monday October 10, 2022 @05:29PM (#33156600)
I think this is similar to the birth of Linux, but with two very major differences.

(1) we are in a world where open source is the way.

(2) it’s somewhat a reaction to the state of modern software, both in UI paradigm and in increasing cartelization.

To me, it’s hope.

Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by abiloe on Monday October 10, 2022 @05:58PM (#33156885)
> we are in a world where open source is the way.

I think you're in a bubble. The world still runs primarily on closed source and proprietary software and services.

Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by BirAdam on Monday October 10, 2022 @06:31PM (#33157152)
Linux, Nginx, Apache, PHP, MySQL, WordPress, Chrome, Firefox, various open source NoSQL DBs, NodeJS, Python, RoR… most software is definitely open source. There are the Oracles, z/OS, and MS products and some SaaS stuff, but open source is eating the Earth.
Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by layer8 on Monday October 10, 2022 @06:48PM (#33157315)
Most software that is written commercially is closed source.
Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by abiloe on Friday October 14, 2022 @06:46PM (#33209698)
Lol, are you trying to make a convincing argument? And if not, why bother replying with such nonsense. That short list provided is not "most software", thats a smattering of infrastructure type software.

If you're into idiotic discourse, go ahead and list 1000 open source projects on SourceForge just to "strengthen" your argument.

Tell me - what do most people in industry use for: image editing, video editing, audio and sound design, CAD, EDA, ERP, EMR, logistics, finance - you know actually getting stuff done with those things you mentioned above? Never mind that the vast majority of software written is line of business software.

The landscape of free/open source software has not changed much since the 90s. The market share has increased, some of the names have changed, but it's still the same types of stuff that it excels at (languages, OSes, frameworks).

Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by BirAdam on Tuesday October 18, 2022 @10:11AM (#33247410)
We would need to define the terms in order to have proper debate on this. Are we talking number of projects, lines of code, install base, user base, profit generated, or some combination of all of it? My argument is largely based upon loc in installed base.
Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by julianeon on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @04:19AM (#33160705)
We should make a distinction here between legacy and non legacy. For legacy code closed source is dominant.

But we’re seeing a success story for open source on a scale almost never seen before when it comes to AI.

Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by origin_path on Tuesday October 11, 2022 @04:53AM (#33160919)
Are we? Most AI models that people know about are proprietary, with some (Google's) so proprietary they won't even provide API access to them.

Yes, Stability AI is doing great stuff with making this tech freely available for now, but it's not clear how sustainable that is in the absence of large VC funds. The players with the bigger more stable budgets are going the proprietary route.

Re:The 4th Year of SerenityOS by kaveh808 on Monday October 10, 2022 @10:28PM (#33158815)
> having fun and simply building something because you want it to exist are valid goals in and of themselves.

I agree. Sums up my own thinking when I started my 3D graphics system in Common Lisp a few months ago. Enjoying writing code from scratch, even basic UI widgets on top of OpenGL.